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Golfbum22

03/23/24 9:29 AM

#789819 RE: Guido2 #789816

How did you come up with $5?

How soon after conservatorship ending would dividends start?

TIA
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Sammy boy

03/23/24 11:25 AM

#789827 RE: Guido2 #789816

Thanks Guido
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Forrest Gump Luck

03/23/24 1:08 PM

#789835 RE: Guido2 #789816

There are plenty of good reasons one could have to sell. But I agree with dividend fantasy. It would be nice.
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RickNagra

03/23/24 2:59 PM

#789837 RE: Guido2 #789816

Dividends for the commons annual $5 sounds excessively high to me. If someone owns say 100,000 shares that works out to be $125,000 every 3 months.
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Golfbum22

03/23/24 3:06 PM

#789842 RE: Guido2 #789816

Sign me up

Hurry up

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GVInvestments

03/23/24 3:18 PM

#789846 RE: Guido2 #789816

Exactly why sell when we can collect great dividends.
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Rodney5

03/23/24 5:31 PM

#789855 RE: Guido2 #789816

Guido, dividends at $5 per share I can see that happening; On condition the Treasury’s liquidation preference is cancelled, the SPS redeemed and the warrants are not exercised. The earnings power of Fannie Mae’s business could easily pay out dividends at $5 per share annually.
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stockanalyze

03/23/24 7:28 PM

#789863 RE: Guido2 #789816

anything is possible once they are released and if they release . anyone has access to this?
https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/the-end-of-fintech-biden-gse-release
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Wise Man

03/24/24 4:37 AM

#789891 RE: Guido2 #789816

Conservatorship has nothing to do with the dividend payments.

After conservatorship, once dividends are restored,


This is the theory, because we know that, nowadays, under the Separate Account, the dividends are kept suspended thanks to the conservator's Incidental Power "in the best interests of the FHFA", because it's carrying out a "membership cleansing". FHFA saw an opportunity when the UST attached the release from conservatorship to a Privatized Housing Finance System revamp in its 2011 Report to Congress required by the Dodd-Frank law.

The driver of dividend payments is the capital levels and thus, capital classifications, as expressly written by the FHFA in the preface of the famous 2011 Final Rule "for the transparency of the conservatorship":


Since the Capital Rule that came into effect on February 16, 2021, the Adequately Capitalized threshold (Total Capital > Risk-Based Capital requirement) for the resumption of dividend payments isn't enough.
The Table 8: Payout ratio (percentage of the Net Income that can be distributed to the Equity holders as dividend) states that now, additionally, it's required a minimum of 25% of the Prescribed Capital Buffer.


This is the estimation of the moment $FNMAS would have resumed the dividend payments, if it wasn't because of this extended version of Conservatorship to fulfill the FHFA's interest of winding down (redemption) the AT1 Capital instruments (JPS)
This is useful to calculate its fair value all along, because a JPS is a fixed-income security nowadays without a dividend payment (just like FnF's 30-year zero coupon callable Medium Term Notes), applying a 6% annual discount rate to this milestone that marks the moment the fair value reaches its par value again.
With the 3Q 2022 earnings report (the chart was first calculated with the statutory Core Capital, when the Capital Buffer is calculated only over the Tier 1 Capital, which is a little bit lower than the Core Capital, that's why the delay in the chart)


Remember that you need a positive balance account on the Accumulated Retained Earnings accounts in the first place, in order to distribute them out, yet FnF still post Accumulated Deficit Retained Earnings account, worth $-91B officially posted on their Balance Sheets, but we know that there is Financial Statement fraud with the $125B SPS LP increased for free and its $125B offset (precisely, reduction of Retained Earnings account) absent from the balance sheets.
Once this fraud is sorted out, their Accumulated Deficit Retained Earnings accounts stand at $-216B together.
Besides for dividend payments, this account is also meant to absorb the future (unexpected) losses.
So much for the "Rehabilitate FnF", required by the Supreme Court and also judge Willett (5th Cir.).

You just need two eyes to spot their Retained Earnings accounts on their balance sheets.
Fannie Mae: $-55.6B


Freddie Mac: $-35.1B


An adjusted Core Capital shortfall over Leverage capital requirement of $402B. Then, apply the 25% of the Prescribed Capital Buffer on top of that.
Way to go to start thinking about dividend payments, unless the Separate Account plan is unveiled: CET1 > 2.5% of Adjusted Total Assets on December 2023, allowing the redemption of the JPS and then, meet the ERCF with Tier 1 Capital > 2.5% of ATA.
Thus, complying with the FHFA's best interests of expulsion of the JPS holders (AT1 Capital).