yes, and porter the ceo is so uncumunicative its uncanny. he never replies to emails, calls, anything. They USED to have an IR(Ron Both i think his name is), but he either no longer works for them or is just as bad with communication as porter is. they still have milliions of converts waiting in the wings.. you can tell they are slowly trying to get out when you see those big lots suddenly show up on the ask then disappear. they have no idea how to sell in order to make something with dead volume for the last 2 years.
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