If I'm really wrong, I stand corrected and apologize to you. It's been a long time, it dragged out for a long time to get it submitted and in my memory, I feel fairly sure that you had claimed 'longs should give up, they will never apply'. But your posts are amazingly prolific and I don't have a 'search posts for text string' feature available, so I have no way of even trying to search for that or similar text. That being the case I will grant that without an unreasonable effort I can't even try to refresh my memory on what you wrote, so though I won't admit I've got it all wrong on this, but I will drop my claim unless and until I find evidence to back it up. If other longs don't remember it the way I did, that would accept that as proof that I was mistaken.
I admit that in a long-running argument with multiple protagonists especially, it's easy to get confused about who said what and when. E.g. permabear A says 'they will never submit', could easily make me remember that as permabear B said they will never submit. Also, I assert that logically 'they will never publish the results' also would by definition mean they will never file for approval. I do think you insisted they would not get published PERIOD but again, without a decent text search feature it's impossible to search far back through a posters hundreds and hundreds of posts by reading one at a time.
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