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boston745

09/21/23 2:56 PM

#81792 RE: boston745 #81789

Here is indirect evidence that Teslas suffer from Sudden Unintended Acceleration along with proof that other kinds of electric vehicles suffer from SUA.

First thing to do is familarize yourself with this particular out of control accident in China Nov 2022. Here is video footage:


https://youtu.be/6Kf3I_OyDlI

In an interview, the driver of this Tesla claims the brakes would not respond and that he tried to use the emergency brake while speeding out of control.

In an interview with local news outlet Dahe Daily, the 55-year-old driver, Zhan, who said he was a former truck driver, said he tried pressing the brake pedal and the emergency parking brake button, but with no effect


This picture clearly shows brake lights on. I wonder if this was one of the times Mr Zhan tried to engage the ebrake?

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/what-made-a-tesla-model-y-speed-up-for-26-km-until-killing-two-people-in-china_5.jpg

Tesla China released the following information confirming that Mr. Zhan did indeed apply the emergency brake but data doesnt show he applied the brake. Take note that ebrake application also failed to slow this Tesla down.

Tesla China denied the family member’s claims, noting that data from the ill-fated Model Y showed that the accelerator pedal was depressed deeply during the incident. Tesla stated that the Park button was indeed pressed during the vehicle’s final drive four times, but only briefly. Previous tests from Tesla owners indicated that pressing Park for an extended period of time while the vehicle is in motion would stop the car


There you have it folks, indirect admission that Teslas can experience sudden unintended acceleration. Why do I say that? Because its confirmed that Mr Zhan used Teslas parking brake and there is photographic evidence of his Tesla braking. Using the parking brake while in motion is for emergencies situations when the main brake system fails to respond. Thats also indirect evidence that Mr Zhan did in fact try the brakes and they failed to respond.
Teslas parking brake system is supposed to tell the motors to stop all motion. So its a completely separate system from the actual braking system. Yet Mr Zhan applied it 4 times with no response from the system. Also despite the data indicating only the accelerator was applied, , why would Mr Zhan tell the truth about applying the ebrake and knowingly lie about trying to apply the brake? Or is it more likely that he did attempt to apply the brakes, but like when he applied the parking brake, they didnt respond. There is an explanation for this as seen in other out of control electric vehicles. Simply put the data recorder records what the car does not what the driver tells the car to do, which better explains why the accelerator pedal shows 100% pressure the whole time. The car accelerates because of a glitch to or from the accelerator ECU. You can read more about this in a link posted below in a previous post.

One thing I find particularly interesting, and illuminating, is the fact that Tesla China claims Mr Zhan did in fact apply the park button but fails to acknowledge to the public that the park button is in fact Teslas E-brake (called a parking brake by Tesla). Essentially Tesla China is lying by omission by not disclosing what the park button does and that should tell you that Tesla China is afraid to be truthful with the public.
Teslarati, a very pro Tesla website with high degree of knowledge about Teslas, adds that applying the park button has aided "some drivers" to come to a stop, yet also fails to indicate that the park button is in fact the e-brake. More than that its description of the park buttons function is very misleading. Strange is it not that both these companies are lying by omission and misrepresenting the truth?

If youd like to know more about how to use Teslas e-brake, watch the following video:


https://youtu.be/OM4amQDhtxA

If you would like explanation of how the accelerator can show near max pressure while the driver is applying the brake, something that seems to have occurred here and has occurred in other EV, click the following link:

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171921567


Quote Sources:

1. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/fatal-high-speed-tesla-crash-china-police-probe.amp
2. https://web.archive.org/web/20230301190008/https://www.teslarati.com/fatal-tesla-model-y-crash-investigation-accelerator-pressed-viral-video/
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boston745

09/22/23 11:30 AM

#81812 RE: boston745 #81789

Additional info that further indicates this Tesla suffered a SUA event.

Panozzo said it was his understanding that neither of the people in the vehicle were seriously injured and that the vehicle was speeding at the time of the crash.

After the vehicle crashed through the wall into the basement, it continued and struck the adjacent wall, which left the house structurally unsound, he said.


So in addition to the fact that the Tesla drove over 200 yards to hit this individuals house, it kept driving into the house until its forward momentum was impeded. Which sounds alot like this SUA crash from earlier this year.

As a driver pulled into his San Ramon garage Monday night, his Tesla unexpectedly accelerated, slamming through a wall and damaging the home's kitchen.


"The car just kept going by itself and just hit the wall and went into the home," he said. "It took the kitchen island out. The refrigerator out."

The weight of the collapsed wall halted the car's forward progress. But the wheels kept spinning until the stunned driver got the car to turn off.


20. Feb 6th (37.7574019, -121.9128575)

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/out-of-control-tesla-slams-into-san-ramon-home/

117. Sept 19th 
https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/crime-courts/bob-panozzo-lakes-of-the-four-seasons-crash-tesla/article_0d2f39c6-5894-11ee-8a1b-cf6172f485ee.html