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newman2021

08/26/23 10:58 PM

#625113 RE: hankmanhub #625108

hahaha Laura got them by their ba**s, isn't it!! It is goin to be a gigantic settlement, imo.
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hankmanhub

08/26/23 11:06 PM

#625114 RE: hankmanhub #625108

More on the Kessev Tov case from the Memo:

Kessev Tov v. Doe(s), 2023 WL 4825110 (N.D. Ill. July 27, 2023), is also directly on point.
In Kessev Tov, the court found that even allegations that lacked many of the detailed elements in Harrington sufficed to state a claim for spoofing under Section 10(b). It too rejected a number of the very same arguments raised by Defendants here. For example, Kessev Tov denied the defendants’ motion to dismiss despite the fact that it involved spoofing on the market for S&P 500 index options, a similar market to OTC Link and NYSE ARCA Global OTC. Compare Kessev Tov, 2023 WL 4825110 at *1 with Def. Br. at 6-8, 34. Similarly, in rejecting defendants’ claim that “the sizes of the bids and asks” placed by defendants were “relatively small” and “equal on both sides of the market,” the Kessev Tov court held that “even if the orders entered were relatively small, because it was not an active market, these allegedly deceptive orders could still have great effect.” Compare Kessev Tov, 2023 WL 4825110 at *5 with Def. Br. at 26. The Court further held that “[w]hile “layering” or “parking” bids may be one way of proving spoofing, there is no case law that holds it is the only way to do so.” Compare Kessev Tov, 2023 WL 4825110 at *4 with Def. Br. at 15-16. And the Court held that it was irrelevant at the pleading stage that the plaintiff did not identify who specifically benefitted from the spoofing scheme and how much profit they made (id. at *5), and that stock prices may have moved in the opposite direction as the Baiting Orders during a spoofing episode (id. at *6). Compare with Def. Br. at 25-26.

Notably, throughout the Defendants’ Motion they cite extensively to and rely on an earlier decision in Kessev Tov that was superseded by this decision. See Def. Br. at 27-30 (citing Kessev Tov v. Doe(s), 2022 WL 2356626 (N.D. Ill. June 30, 2022)). Despite the fact that the Kessev Tov decision Defendants rely on in their Motion was superseded a month ago, Defendants have not notified the Court that the case is no longer sound law.

Because Plaintiff here alleges not only the same facts held to be sufficient in Harrington and Kessev Tov, but also additional numerous other facts further evidencing that Defendants were engaging in illegal spoofing, (¶¶84, 98, 112, 126, 140, 154, 167, 180, 187, 201, 214, 228, 235, Case 1:22-cv-10185-GHW-GWG Document 123 Filed 08/25/23 Page 22 of 48 16 242, 249, 256, 264), and that virtually all of the objections raised by Defendants here were rejected in Harrington, Kessov Tov or both, Defendants’ motion to dismiss should likewise be denied.

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The Danish Dude

08/27/23 4:31 AM

#625150 RE: hankmanhub #625108

Omg Laura has got defendants by their ba... :-d

Gonna be good.
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TurdBlossom

08/31/23 2:50 AM

#626929 RE: hankmanhub #625108

I do not believe the defense attorneys were sloppy and simply forgot to Shepardize their case law. They had a difficult task and a likely an obscenely high meter, so run it out and force the other team to make the play. Or maybe they just tossed in the towel and handed the MTD to the JV team of 2 first year associates led by a 3rd year- still billable hours. In any event, the public policy defense they offer as an alternative is laughable

When the law is on your side, argue the law; when the facts are on your side, argue the law; when neither is on your side, argue public policy.

“Defendants resort to unsubstantiated scare tactics of an impending “flood” of “frivolous lawsuits” ?that would upend “the entire U.S. equity market system” if Plaintiff’s claims are sustained”

The public policy defense argues that Citadel has been such a bad actor for so long that it is now too big to fail?? Talk about tossing everything against the wall to see what sticks. I salute them for being willing present this at oral argument in front a judge while keeping a straight face.