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alan81

02/20/07 8:09 PM

#38551 RE: Snowrider2 #38550

I don't think so...
As the highest speed part I suspect these will be quite rare. I think the only people who will buy them are upgraders with an existing socket, so really can't choose a core 2 product anyway... and the price is such that it is cheaper than a core 2 + motherboard.

With regards to the single core parts, the prices on those seem very high also, and I see that as a problem. Intel will be releasing the Millville single core celeron core products fairly soon, and they will be priced much lower and be higher performing.

At the Q4 CC AMD said they are currently at about 30% dual core IIRC, so they still have a way to go before they catch INTC on dual core percentages... in a rapidly changing environment.
--Alan
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wbmw

02/21/07 12:44 AM

#38556 RE: Snowrider2 #38550

Re: Interesting, AMD is pricing the X2 6000+ at $459 which is between the E6600 at $316 and the E6700 at $530. Considering the X2 6000+ cannot compete with the E6700 and the E6600 beats it in 13 out of 22 or 60% of the benchmarks, I doubt AMD can hold the $459 price. Look for them to drop the price about $143 to $150 and feed the press with more "price war" BS.

Snow, I agree with your reasoning, but I think it applies more to products that are demand limited, rather than supply limited. As Alan suggested, the top bin parts are usually supply limited, so AMD prices them high, because they can only make enough to satisfy the most rabid of AMD fans who prefer brand loyalty over price/performance.

By the way, if you look at my methodology, I showed that the E6600 and 6000+ are pretty much equivalent. There may be a few more benchmarks where the E6600 edges ahead, but I think it's senseless to count anything as a win if the margin is <5%.

The problem for AMD is when Intel lowers the price of the E6600 to $224 this April, and the E6700 takes the $316 spot. At that point, AMD's 6000+ at $459 starts looking ridiculously expensive. And I suspect the rest of the waterfall will cause AMD's ASPs no end to grief.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/30/intel_22_april_price_cuts/