Fraud is fraud I'm not here to defend it or say its acceptable all I'm saying is it happens more than we think and it affects all of us. Not to mention not every instance of fraud is caught as well. Lastly how much fraud is too much or acceptable is 58 counts for CDEL acceptable? it isn't to me... What is acceptable for OTC companies and shareholders? is there a magic number? is it 255 counts of fraud the limit? I didn't yell fire I'm just pointing it out as my opinion that its more relevant than a myth proven with hard data from regulators that it's not a myth or a small matter. I don't work for CDEL and I'm going to carry on digging in it because I believe it affect the pps of my tickers including DBMM.