I am not saying any of their mineral product has no value. It has tremendous value (SuperFlake graphite and Vanadium Green Giant holding; I originally bought in 2009 for Green Giant, then they ran into issues with how to roast and convert it easily....then discovered the graphite and that because the easiest past to a money making mine, as it is near surface, and easy to process). My premise is how are they going to do the CAPEX raise for Phase 2, which you keep ignoring. EOM