Yeah, soon or later you have take the sun glasses off to see the light. The YEARS of 'carrot dangling' to hold and entice investors is nauseating and tiresome. Distributor after distributor announced all over the world for YEARS that resulted in nothing. Did they even exist or was it all lies --- Carrot dangling??? The products have kept me invested for YEARS (2009) but I have always been skeptical of this family leadership. Shame, as these products deserve so much more than this leadership. That's why I was always hoping they (daddy or daughter) would sell this all to an entity that could make this a success. But IMO it seems like their interest was more in the loan conversion to 50% stock deals to personally profit, than to company success and its stockholders.