10 years?
Remember the song from the 70's?:
"If you don't know me by now,
You will never never never know me"
I figured that once the JA came out, that the attacks would move from the science, to the management, and their competence and motivations. Areas where, imo, they are still vulnerable. But, in spite if very solid evidence, they're still singing the same grapefruit song.