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awk

11/05/03 11:50 AM

#16722 RE: SPIN #16716

SPIN: re: Rainbow...

Note that RNBO is assisting MSFT to build a device... it will be an MSFT device. ergo, MSFT entered the hardware security "space" yesterday. TCPA was disbanded to eliminate the MSFT veto & the US/USSR UN relations quagmire that it was becoming.

Rainbow USB, serial and parrallel port tokens cost between 25 and 50 US dollars...

Maybe the deal wasn't so much as to Microsoft entering the hardware security space - they are in it since June 2002 - maybe the deal was to enable - as a standard - Microsoft applications to also work with Rainbow hardware tokens...clearly, Microsoft must have an interest that their applications work with all security devices out there...

But the goal is NGSCB...and that is a fact!

24601

11/05/03 12:28 PM

#16737 RE: SPIN #16716

You don't play sides so much as you play your self-image. Your conclusion that Rainbow will help Microsoft build a Microsoft appliance is an interesting play. But take a step back. Wave is not a hardware merchant. Wave is a services company that has successfully campaigned to see a client-side hardware component that supplies the resources necessary for Wave's services established as a requirement for trusted computing.



bowWAVE

11/05/03 12:40 PM

#16741 RE: SPIN #16716

SPIN - have always enjoyed your posts even if I haven't agreed with all of them. I suppose fortunately I haven't been the focus of your writings, though afterward I might reflect that I'd had shock treatment or a mental enema of sorts.

I think you raise a very good point re MSFT and RNBO. From what I know MSFT is putting substantial effort into their game box and the notion of hooking up household appliances to their "hub" if you will. Obviously MS has a huge installed base of users and can very well see that SONY is doing pretty well with their extremely proprietary offerings.

MS very well may carve out their own sandbox in the HW/SW combination as well as play in the (hopefully larger) sandbox run by other TCG members.

I think you've got to ask yourself (at least in the long run) will the consumer keep going to Microsoft even though they don't trust them?

At this point I have to lean heavily to Wave still. Whether Bill Gates likes it or not I think MS has now become the IBM of several decades ago. And their job is even more difficult because of the sharing of software/ideas/everything that is possible with the internet, ironically with software that was largely written/acquired by MS.

best regards,
bowWAVE