ron, I , and my escrow position is NOT THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION HERE!.....you made a post We Win without substantiation to escrow returns... which is the subject.....now, after all these years of waiting for your HLCE, its time to put up, or sit down.......more kicking the can down the road is not gonna work anymore... post your links to your expected HLCE, so that we can comment on them....Lodas