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boston745

07/21/21 1:25 AM

#50924 RE: boston745 #50921

Consequently its the 18650 cells used in the Tesla Plaid that have been proven to be susceptible to thermal runaway due to electromagnetic fields.

Thermal runaway has been successfully triggered for different battery types, such as 3.1 Ah 18650 cylindrical cells, 39 Ah pouch and 94 Ah hard casing prismatic cells.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775320302172

Why Tesla Chose the 18650 Battery Over the 4680 In the Model S Plaid


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.torquenews.com/14093/why-tesla-chose-18650-battery-over-4680-model-s-plaid/amp





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boston745

07/21/21 3:29 AM

#50929 RE: boston745 #50921

On March 21 2021 a Tesla owner describes what appears to be the beginning of a thermal runaway event. Fortunately it didnt ignite the whole car:

30 seconds later I start smelling a toxic electric smell. Was warmish in Chicago so I had sunroof open. Couldn’t tell whether it was me or I was downwind of something or some other car, but yet smell was definitely there. 30 seconds after that I received the following alert at bottom of cluster, “Car may not restart; contact service”. . . Uh oh.

Kept driving, and 30 seconds more, about quarter mile to my destination I had what can only be referred to as an “Apollo 13” moment. Everything started beeping, alerts in rapid succession started filling my infotainment screen. Maggie started shutting all systems down 1 at a time but 100 alerts popped up in seconds. It was intense and chaotic. As I pulled into destination, I lost power steering, the accelerator stopped responding and I luckily coasted into the parking lot and rolled to a stop. I intentionally parked away from everyone because I thought I might be calling the fire department.



Based on what occurred here it looks like BMS caught the problem in the early stages of thermal runaway and prevented a worse scenario.

When lithium-ion batteries begin to fail, the chemical process produces electrolyte vapour from battery cells. This off-gas is produced soon after cell damage occurs and several minutes before thermal runaway starts. 

Lithium-ion battery failure eventually produces detectable smoke, too, but only after thermal runaway has already begun. Detecting smoke alone results in a response that is too late. Instead, by detecting the presence of off-gases, affected batteries can be shut down in time to prevent thermal runaway



Like the Tesla Plaid & Chevy Bolt fires, this thermal runaway event happened during a solar storm & geomagnetic unrest:

https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=21&month=03&year=2021

In charting trends you want at least 3 points, well this is a third. Of course I have many more to add to this trend.

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Tesla thru the roof

07/21/21 11:39 AM

#50934 RE: boston745 #50921

100% Wrong and totally unrelated.
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boston745

07/21/21 1:48 PM

#50939 RE: boston745 #50921

Heres another Tesla that spontaneously combusted while geomagnetic unrest was occuring.

A Tesla Model Y owner in Los Angeles was washing her car yesterday when she suddenly started smelling smoke. Moments later smoke was billowing from the front of the car, leading to the vehicle becoming a complete loss


https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-y/tesla-owner-watches-model-y-catch-fire-in-driveway/#respond

GEOMAGNETIC UNREST EXPECTED: Minor geomagnetic unrest is expected on March 18th when a co-rotating interaction region (CIR) disturbs Earth's magnetic field. CIRs are transition zones between fast- and slow-moving solar wind streams. Plasma piles up in these regions, creating shock-like density gradients that often do a good job sparking auroras. 


https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=17&month=03&year=2021
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boston745

07/21/21 2:23 PM

#50940 RE: boston745 #50921

Hours before the Tesla Plaid spontaneously combusted, 100 tons of lithium batteries caught on fire in Morris, IL. This is not simply a Tesla issue this is a lithium ion + Electromagnetic field issue.

Nearly 100 tons of lithium batteries were involved in the large industrial fire in Morris Tuesday that led to emergency evacuations and a large-scale response as authorities warned of “highly poisonous” and “very deadly” fumes.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/illinois-epa-asks-for-legal-action-against-business-at-center-of-morris-battery-fire/2545341/%3famp

About 3-4k residents were diaplaced due to the health threat that Lithium Ion batteries pose when highly deadly fumes exhaust from them!


Looking at realtime solar wind & Geomagnetic activity it looks like there was a distubance around 1500 hours GMT. That's around 10am Chicago time and 11am EST? Morris fire began around 1900hours GMT & the Tesla plaid caught on fire around 2-3am GMT as another disturbance began.
Spike in solar wind density, speed, and temperature suggests a small CME around the time the Tesla Plaid spontaneously combusted.
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boston745

07/22/21 10:15 PM

#50966 RE: boston745 #50921

Almost everytime there is a crack in the magnetic field a Tesla goes out of control and crashes into an object.

SUDBURY (CBS) – A Tesla crashed into an orthodontist’s office in Sudbury Thursday morning, but no one was seriously hurt.

The car slammed into Sudbury Orthodontics on Concord Road just after 9 a.m. and went deep inside the building.



Police believe its operator error due to lack of knowledge but these sort of Tesla accidents, where a Tesla veers off course, always happen when something like below occurs.


A CRACK IN EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD: During the early hours of July 22nd (0330 - 1000 UT) a crack opened in Earth's magnetic field: data. Solar wind poured in, fueling a period of geomagnetic unrest (Kp=4). So far no reports of auroras have been received, probably due to the glare of northern summer sunlight. Quiet conditions have since resumed.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/22/tesla-crash-sudbury-orthodontics-concord-road-massachusetts/%3famp

https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=22&month=07&year=2021
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boston745

07/24/21 2:25 AM

#51029 RE: boston745 #50921

Tesla puts new Model S deliveries on hold, and it’s unclear why

I would think that if the problem was related to the fire, Tesla would have to do more than put a delivery hold on new deliveries, but also inform current owners.



This is something I agree with Electrek on, the hold is due to the Tesla Plaid fire. This is how Tesla rolls. GM mans up announces a recall while Tesla does a stealth recall to do another inspection.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2021/07/23/tesla-puts-new-model-s-deliveries-on-hold/amp/

Tesla has far more vehicle fires than GM does. I think 7 or 8+ so far this year including a couple accidents where the Tesla caught fire before final impact.