There is another frequent flyer I knew here long ago under a different alias...anyways, I couldn't dump/sell them over in any of my ET accounts so I intentionally ask ET to remove them as worthless stock around 3 years ago. Now in my TD accounts I had tried like hell for years to sell them and of course wasn't able no seen market/marketable however, I check this message thread a couple of weeks ago and was able to see movement no doubt I jump as fast as I could, the thought to just break even @.0001.... I sold them all the first day with no regrets.... I finally got out of BKMP prison. All my stock was common shares no certs or preferred.