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Rdunn88

10/01/20 12:06 AM

#325918 RE: haoliepastor #325916

Agree, a free society should not impose rules based off speculation. Those who are high risk stay home. Why should my business be shutdown while others remain open. I’m glad the states who imposed their will are getting sued and have their economies in ruins. We all know who they are.. Every day there’s risk at everything we do including driving a car. Guess driving will be restricted if accidents increase? Those who are afraid of high risk don’t take the freeway.
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kfcyahoo

10/01/20 12:23 AM

#325920 RE: haoliepastor #325916

"How many who test positive die? How many who die actually die from COVID? How many in LTCFs who died would have died anyway without COVID or would have died if they caught the cold or flu?"

You ask:
1. How many who test positive die? 2 to 3 people/100 in the US(closer to 3).

2. How many in LTCFs who died would have died anyway without COVID or would have died if they caught the cold or flu?

My opinion, alot less. Covid causes inflammation. I'm diabetic(insulin dependent) with very good control(good blood sugar levels) which calls upon the immune system to come to the rescue. The immune system can over react causing cytokine storm, not just with diabetes but with many medical conditions(be it surgery,trama due to accidents,gun shot wounds-whatever) which is not good for major organs of the body and lead to sepsis and death.

Blood sugar rises as people age, or become increasingly unhealthy(overweight-thank God that's not a problem America).

"CONCLUSIONS—A1C levels are positively associated with age in nondiabetic populations even after exclusion of subjects with IFG and/or IGT. Further studies are needed to determine whether age-specific diagnostic and treatment criteria would be appropriate."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2551641/

A1c, for those aren't familiar with the term. is the average blood glucose(sugar)level over a 3 month period. It's proven to increase with age in non-diabetics. I believe America's diet explains a part of the high percentage we are experiencing compared to the rest world(I'm aware that not all countries are likely honest with their figures presented).
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TheDane

10/01/20 7:47 AM

#325942 RE: haoliepastor #325916

Excellent post. Go IPIX!
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Snowy_Owl

10/01/20 8:07 AM

#325944 RE: haoliepastor #325916

Let’s say a person with stage 4 cancer who is facing certain death is hit and killed by a runaway bus.

The cause of death was being run over by a bus.

“How many in LTCFs who died would have died anyway without COVID or would have died if they caught the cold or flu?”
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rmzport

10/01/20 9:59 AM

#325992 RE: haoliepastor #325916

Great post. Something wrong people that can't see what's going on around of them. Is Covid real? Sure it is but to politicize it as has been done is criminal.
Example, countries that adopted HCQ had a 75% lower death rate than those who did not.