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Biobillionair

07/02/20 9:44 AM

#284098 RE: rafunrafun #284097

Discussing the outcome of a coin flip is pointless. BB

ggwpq

07/02/20 9:49 AM

#284100 RE: rafunrafun #284097

raf, that's my personal opinion, nothing to do with H&R reply. I just want to see how H&R could win which is simpler to figure out how Amarin could win.

ziploc_1

07/02/20 10:21 AM

#284116 RE: rafunrafun #284097

raf...I believe it is obvious...that by the time judge Du reached the S.C....she had already made her decision to invalidate the patents on the basis of prima facie evidence and she was looking for further reasons to support her position...even if it meant making new case law.

HinduKush

07/02/20 10:54 AM

#284136 RE: rafunrafun #284097

gg and raf
I think there will not be NO case law the way you state it to find because the secondary considerations are designed to work WITH the prima facie obviousness analysis (not overcome it) always serving to act as a guard against hind sight bias and prejudgement of obviousness...exactly the honey traps laid by the Generics that Du fell into. It is not that secondary considerations overcome but more that they act in concert with proper evaluation of prima facie obviousness by Graham criteria 1-3:
1. Determining the scope and contents of the art when the invention was made
2. Ascertaining the differences between that art and the claim(s) at issue
3. Resolving the level of ordinary skill in the pertinent art when the invention was made
4. Considering objective evidence present in the application indicating obviousness or non-obviousness when the invention was made

4 cross checks 1-3 meaning IF the examiner finds objective indicia credible, then they are bound in principle to go back and reassess 1-3 NOT try some mathematical invention where you create a point system and add and subtract according to a weighting formula of the examiner's invention...This is why the Appeals has to pass judgement on Singer thesis number 2 "weighting of objective indicia"...it is too important a concept to duck by the Appeals, and if avoided or ignored by CAFC the Supreme Court will have to address it because it goes to a corruption of the logic they set out as framework after Graham vs. Deere in 1966. Thus far case precedential law has kicked the ball of G vs.D around satisfactorily but Du has kicked the ball out of the playing field and the referee has to step in. I believe it is landmark case because of this alone, and it is parenthetically why Singer will stamp his name on this issue no matter what the outcome.
May be lawyers differ in their view. Thats my read anyway
North? Hamoa? Marjac? Eight?

amarininvestor

07/02/20 6:00 PM

#284281 RE: rafunrafun #284097

Rafun
Was the joint appendix filed yesterday?