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01/09/20 12:30 AM

#239537 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Spot on Mellow... I’m in your camp!!!!

dmiller

01/09/20 12:50 AM

#239539 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Post of the day!

622fast

01/09/20 1:36 AM

#239542 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Nice post! A lot of big brains in this chat but have no idea how mm’s, hedge funds manipulate pps to make money! One poster even said thst it was EMOTIONAL RETAIL was the cause of pps decline! NO WAY!

marzan

01/09/20 2:54 AM

#239549 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

how will they know the stock will be bought out?? Because they hold large percentage of shares, does JT or the board have to get their vote before deciding buy out?? If so, option players are all idiots and Baker Brothers are how escaping from SEC if they screw options to the max pain all the time?

marzan

01/09/20 4:49 AM

#239550 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

how will they sell tons of calls and drive the share price so low driving the calls to max pain each time worthless at the end and still retain that many shares at the end? They short their shares to the tune of 10s of millions of shares to bring down the share price to the max pain each time. Whom do they sell those shares and how did they get back those sold shares later? do they have multiple accounts across the globe that they sell and buy themselvs in days intervals?? is it allowed to do such massacre of shorting and manipulating? They did it after the 2018 Nov AHA; they did it as early as the sNDA approval after the halt to the tune of 90M shares selling. And are doing since last few days. Hopefully the Jan 17 calls survive if the generics settle; may be they tell the Reeddys to drag farther who knows. If Reddy doesn't listen, they got JT by his balls anyway that he will not settle. FFS kept telling us it is Baker Bros who is eating all those tons of premiums since ever they got in. He did even post a wolf pic next to JT depicting the wolf is Baker Bros. JL warned us playing options too. I guess no one listens.

profits101

01/09/20 5:58 AM

#239553 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Max Pain - Pretty flat all over the 17 area... I think some latitude there. News could cancel that out similar to efforts at chart reading.

Invest83838

01/09/20 7:16 AM

#239556 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Interesting Mellow, Baker Brothers are the Nemesis of us Retail Holders?

Guess it makes some sense that they are indeed the primary manipulator of this stock since they are the largest holder of it

Another reason we retail holders should want a BO as soon as possible

"What is the purpose of hedge funds like Baker Bros?

To make MONEY for their clients.

Do you guys really think they are just sitting with close to a billion dollars worth of stock and not making any money on it for the past year?

Of course they are. They are selling tons of calls and puts. They have made a killing doing it. They will continue to do it until they know the stock will be bought out.

Ask yourself what has this stock done like clockwork for almost every options expiration week? CLOSED AT OR NEAR MAX PAIN! This stock is EASILY manipulated because of a large percentage of retail investors/day traders."

jessellivermore

01/09/20 9:38 AM

#239586 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Mellow....

Great post..."Like a market player"....I don't know about the $17 issue...but do agree that the patent issue resolution should get rid of the barnacles on the hull.....

Then we should see what this boat can do..The hardest thing for novices to get right in the stock market is the counter intuitive nature of information which is fed to the public...That and the importance of patience...What the Rothchild's and the Bharuch's mean when they speak of "blood on the street"...is not really blood on the street...it is disinformation which convinces tyros to make the wrong decision. If you want to buy cheap (and if you are a player you do)..Then you must convince the public the stock is no good...Otherwise they are not going to sell it to you at low prices...It you want to extricate yourself from a large position...and still get top dollar. Then you must convince the suckers that that the shares are worth more than the current selling price..Otherwise why would anyone buy it..

"Cherche' les Analysts"..Love it when the analyst are all bashing the stock..You bet your last dollar some fat firm is looking to buy a boatload...And they don't want to pay retail...

I say patience Amarin brothers..The patent issues should come to a halt in the next week or so..All the trash talkabout Amarin convinces me that big firms want in...Ignore the noise...Vascepa is the real deal and the big boys know it...Don't sell your shares..There's Amarin blood on the street..buy if you have any money...

":>) JL

raistthemage

01/09/20 11:07 AM

#239614 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

Well if they do try to bash it down to 17 we know Thero isn't going to do anything about it... and worst of all he may speak in public.

sts66

01/09/20 2:25 PM

#239658 RE: Mellowmood77 #239532

"Everyone needs to relax" - no kidding! You can always tell when the board is getting nervous if you're like me and generally a day behind on posts - you'll come across a large number of replies to posts that have vanished into the ether.

Guess what Jan 17 is? The mother of all option expiration dates.



What makes this one any more special than previous important options dates, like pre-AHA in Nov 2018, or the week of the AC last Nov? I've also looked at max pain whenever call options get to very high levels, especially around those binary events, and the pps has never gone that low - it's been $17 multiple times, and the worst is usually than calls at $20 or higher expire worthless, the $18's and $19's end up ITM. Not sure how big the BB's are in AMRN options, but I'm 99% sure they're making good money lending shrs to the shorts.


If it were me, and I was playing the “game,” I’d let the final shakeout be patent litigation. Maybe news of not settling will be enough. Finally scare the last of the weak hands out. Simultaneously approaching 90% institution ownership and wiping out Jan 17 options.



'Tute ownership is not going to jump from 48% to 90% in one or two weeks - and AMRN will never have ownership levels get anywhere close to that level - as an ADR it cannot be part of any US stock index (Russell's, S&P's, etc), so the dozens upon dozens of funds and ETFs that track those indexes cannot own AMRN either. Look at the mega-cap ADRs like GSK and BP - their level of 'tute ownership is around 10% - GSK is in no pharma, biotech, or healthcare index. Fund managers earn their keep by beating their benchmark, which is often an index - with no benchmark there's no decent way to evaluate the performance of the fund manager.