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longfellow95

06/12/19 7:24 AM

#232906 RE: AVII77 #232901

AV.
Nothing that you have asserted, demonstrates that a 2015 IA for efficacy actually took place.
It might have, but you don't know that, and nor do I.

All we know from references in a couple of places, is they planned for one.
No more, no less.

You keep making this huge leap, that because they planned for one, they must have had one, and not only are you assuming they had one, you are also assuming that it happened before the implementation of the hold, and that one led to the other.
Although the 'numbers of events' trigger might have changed with trial resizing, the planned efficacy IA was probably still scheduled to happen based on an event number threshold.
And as such, if events were slower or faster than expected, the efficacy IA would be later or earlier than anticipated.

I note that that you now describe your futility theory as a 'theory', rather than asserting strongly that that is what happened, as you did previously.
So it's gratifying that you are now acknowledging less certainty.

I wouldn't accuse you of 2 + 2 = 5.
Imo, it's more a case of ? + ? = f (for futility).
You are coming up with an 'answer' or 'solution', if you like, without knowing the variables involved in the calculation.

As I've indicated elsewhere, the possible causes of the partial hold are manyfold.
As time goes by and the more I think about this, I am less inclined to think that the hold had anything to do with a specific recommendation from an efficacy IA.

With a possible Protocol violation coming more into the frame.
And a technical, dosing, or manufacturing, or shelflife, or documentation issue, could cause a protocol violation.

Mostly opinion.

sentiment_stocks

06/12/19 12:34 PM

#232967 RE: AVII77 #232901

Then he responds in post 232496 citing the 2014 NWBO press release and Furberg comments saying the interim was for safety only. Of course, this PR relates to the 66th event interim, not the 2015 interim.

At this point it is clear he is confusing the 66th event interim with the planned 2015 interim (do you like how I accurately characterized it as "planned"?)



Yes, that's how I'd read it too. You were presenting a slide from 2015 citing a PLANNED efficacy interim analysis, and he is presenting a PR from 2014 to deny that IA ever took place. It would appear he is mixing up the dates, which is probably easy to do, but that is what's been done here.

Appreciate your use of the word "planned". :)