Replies to post #574024 on Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP)

[hotmeat]

There are a lot of claims that are made and insisted that it's all true yet when the dust settles they always end up being predictably wrong. This one about the WMB bond debt being assumed/paid off by JPM is no different. All nonsense dreamed up by delusional minds.

[Large Green]

Ron, I believe you are speaking of the following five bond offerings that now have JPM symbols-I believe these are the ones you are speaking of...CORRECT?

WASH MUT BK FA CA GLBL BE MTN
5.50000% 01/15/2013 ISIN #US93933VAS79 SEDOL #2089461

Details
CUSIP
93933VAS7
ISIN
US93933VAS79
SEDOL
2089461
Pay Frequency
AT MATURITY
Coupon
5.500
Maturity Date
01/15/2013
Moody's Rating
WR
S&P Rating
NR
Issuer Events
YES

Survivor Option
N/A
Bond Type
Corporate
Sector
FINANCE (BANK)
Interest Accrual Date
11/19/2002
Redemptive Features
Call Protection
YES
Continuously Callable
--
Called Bonds
NO
Make Whole Call
NO
Sinking Fund Protection
YES
Sink Defeased
NO
Extraordinary Redemption
NO
Special Mandatory Redemption
NO
Special Optional Redemption
NO
Put Option
NO
Pre-Refunded
--
Pre-Refunded Price
N/A
Escrow End Date
--
Security Features
Minimum Investment Qty
250
Incremental Investment Qty
1
Marginable
NO
Original Issue Discount [OID]
N/A
Current Factor
--
Current Factor Effective Date
--
Previous Factor
--
Previous Factor Effective Date
--
2nd Previous Factor
--
2nd Previous Factor Effective Date
--
Tranche Type
--
Delivery
BOOK ENTRY
Listed
NO
Symbol
--
Exchange
OTC
TRACE Eligibility
YES
Issuer Information
Issue Date
11/14/2002
Dated Date
11/19/2002
First Coupon Date
07/15/2003
Next Coupon
--
Last Coupon
07/15/2012
Workout Date
01/15/2013
Original Issue Amount
$750,000,000.00
Issue Price
--
Coupon Information
Coupon Type
FIXED
Current Rate Effective Date
06/10/2016
Day Count Basis
30/360
Reset Frequency
TERM MODE
Benchmark Reference
--
Benchmark Formula
--
Next Reset Date
--
Next Reset Rate
--
Minimum Rate
--
Maximum Rate
--
Convertible Information
Convertible
NO
Share Amount
--
CUSIP (of equity security)
--
Date (Convertible Information)
--
Foreign Information
Global Indicator
YES
Foreign
NO
International
NO
Primary Country
--
Domicile Country--

______________________________________


WASH MUT BK FA CA GLBL MTN BE NOTE
5.95000% 05/20/2013

Details
CUSIP
93933VBA5
ISIN
US93933VBA52
SEDOL
--
Pay Frequency
SEMI-ANNUALLY
Coupon
5.950
Maturity Date
05/20/2013
Moody's Rating
--
S&P Rating
--
Issuer Events
YES

Survivor Option
N/A
Bond Type
Corporate
Sector
FINANCE (BANK)
Interest Accrual Date
05/18/2006
Redemptive Features
Call Protection
YES
Continuously Callable
--
Called Bonds
NO
Make Whole Call
NO
Sinking Fund Protection
YES
Sink Defeased
NO
Extraordinary Redemption
NO
Special Mandatory Redemption
NO
Special Optional Redemption
NO
Put Option
NO
Pre-Refunded
--
Pre-Refunded Price
N/A
Escrow End Date
--
Security Features
Minimum Investment Qty
1
Incremental Investment Qty
1
Marginable
NO
Original Issue Discount [OID]
N/A
Current Factor
--
Current Factor Effective Date
--
Previous Factor
--
Previous Factor Effective Date
--
2nd Previous Factor
--
2nd Previous Factor Effective Date
--
Tranche Type
--
Delivery
BOOK ENTRY
Listed
NO
Symbol
--
Exchange
OTC
TRACE Eligibility
YES
Issuer Information
Issue Date
05/15/2006
Dated Date
05/18/2006
First Coupon Date
11/20/2006
Next Coupon
05/20/2013
Last Coupon
11/20/2012
Workout Date
05/20/2013
Original Issue Amount
$350,000,000.00
Issue Price
--
Coupon Information
Coupon Type
FIXED
Current Rate Effective Date
05/16/2006
Day Count Basis
30/360
Reset Frequency
--
Benchmark Reference
--
Benchmark Formula
--
Next Reset Date
--
Next Reset Rate
--
Minimum Rate
--
Maximum Rate
--
Convertible Information
Convertible
NO
Share Amount
--
CUSIP (of equity security)
--
Date (Convertible Information)
--
Foreign Information


WASHINGTON MUT BK FA CHATSWORTH CAL MTN 6.87500% 06/15/2011 ISIN #US93933WAA45 SEDOL #7153598

etails
CUSIP
93933WAA4
ISIN
US93933WAA45
SEDOL
7153598
Pay Frequency
SEMI-ANNUALLY
Coupon
6.875
Maturity Date
06/15/2011
Moody's Rating
WR
S&P Rating
NR
Issuer Events
YES

Survivor Option
N/A
Bond Type
Corporate
Sector
FINANCE (BANK)
Interest Accrual Date
06/20/2001
Redemptive Features
Call Protection
YES
Continuously Callable
--
Called Bonds
NO
Make Whole Call
NO
Sinking Fund Protection
YES
Sink Defeased
NO
Extraordinary Redemption
NO
Special Mandatory Redemption
NO
Special Optional Redemption
NO
Put Option
NO
Pre-Refunded
--
Pre-Refunded Price
N/A
Escrow End Date
--
Security Features
Minimum Investment Qty
1
Incremental Investment Qty
1
Marginable
NO
Original Issue Discount [OID]
N/A
Current Factor
--
Current Factor Effective Date
--
Previous Factor
--
Previous Factor Effective Date
--
2nd Previous Factor
--
2nd Previous Factor Effective Date
--
Tranche Type
--
Delivery
BOOK ENTRY
Listed
NO
Symbol
--
Exchange
OTC
TRACE Eligibility
YES
Issuer Information
Issue Date
06/20/2001
Dated Date
06/20/2001
First Coupon Date
12/15/2001
Next Coupon
06/15/2011
Last Coupon
12/15/2010
Workout Date
06/15/2011
Original Issue Amount
$1,000,000,000.00
Issue Price
--
Coupon Information
Coupon Type
FIXED
Current Rate Effective Date
08/23/2016
Day Count Basis
30/360
Reset Frequency
--
Benchmark Reference
--
Benchmark Formula
--
Next Reset Date
--
Next Reset Rate
--
Minimum Rate
--
Maximum Rate
--
Convertible Information
Convertible
NO
Share Amount
--
CUSIP (of equity security)
--
Date (Convertible Information)
--
Foreign Information
Global Indicator
YES
Foreign
NO
International
NO
Primary Country
Luxembourg
Domicile Country
--


WASHINGTON MUT BK FA CHATSWORTH CAL MTN 5.65000% 08/15/2014

etails
CUSIP
93933WAB2
ISIN
US93933WAB28
SEDOL
B02FY99
Pay Frequency
SEMI-ANNUALLY
Coupon
5.650
Maturity Date
08/15/2014
Moody's Rating
WR
S&P Rating
NR
Issuer Events
YES

Survivor Option
N/A
Bond Type
Corporate
Sector
FINANCE (BANK)
Interest Accrual Date
08/05/2004
Redemptive Features
Call Protection
YES
Continuously Callable
--
Called Bonds
NO
Make Whole Call
NO
Sinking Fund Protection
YES
Sink Defeased
NO
Extraordinary Redemption
NO
Special Mandatory Redemption
NO
Special Optional Redemption
NO
Put Option
NO
Pre-Refunded
--
Pre-Refunded Price
N/A
Escrow End Date
--
Security Features
Minimum Investment Qty
250
Incremental Investment Qty
1
Marginable
NO
Original Issue Discount [OID]
N/A
Current Factor
--
Current Factor Effective Date
--
Previous Factor
--
Previous Factor Effective Date
--
2nd Previous Factor
--
2nd Previous Factor Effective Date
--
Tranche Type
--
Delivery
BOOK ENTRY
Listed
NO
Symbol
--
Exchange
OTC
TRACE Eligibility
YES
Issuer Information
Issue Date
08/05/2004
Dated Date
08/05/2004
First Coupon Date
02/15/2005
Next Coupon
08/15/2014
Last Coupon
02/15/2014
Workout Date
08/15/2014
Original Issue Amount
$750,000,000.00
Issue Price
--
Coupon Information
Coupon Type
FIXED
Current Rate Effective Date
09/19/2017
Day Count Basis
30/360
Reset Frequency
--
Benchmark Reference
--
Benchmark Formula
--
Next Reset Date
--
Next Reset Rate
--
Minimum Rate
--
Maximum Rate
--
Convertible Information
Convertible
NO
Share Amount
--
CUSIP (of equity security)
--
Date (Convertible Information)
--
Foreign Information
Global Indicator
NO
Foreign
NO
International
NO
Primary Country
--
Domicile Country
--


WASH MUT BK CA GLB BONDS MTN 5.12500% 01/15/2015


Details
CUSIP
93933WAC0
ISIN
US93933WAC01
SEDOL
--
Pay Frequency
SEMI-ANNUALLY
Coupon
5.125
Maturity Date
01/15/2015
Moody's Rating
C
S&P Rating
NR
Issuer Events
YES

Survivor Option
N/A
Bond Type
Corporate
Sector
FINANCE (BANK)
Interest Accrual Date
11/12/2004
Redemptive Features
Call Protection
YES
Continuously Callable
--
Called Bonds
NO
Make Whole Call
NO
Sinking Fund Protection
YES
Sink Defeased
NO
Extraordinary Redemption
--
Special Mandatory Redemption
NO
Special Optional Redemption
NO
Put Option
NO
Pre-Refunded
--
Pre-Refunded Price
N/A
Escrow End Date
--
Security Features
Minimum Investment Qty
1
Incremental Investment Qty
1
Marginable
NO
Original Issue Discount [OID]
N/A
Current Factor
--
Current Factor Effective Date
--
Previous Factor
--
Previous Factor Effective Date
--
2nd Previous Factor
--
2nd Previous Factor Effective Date
--
Tranche Type
--
Delivery
BOOK ENTRY
Listed
NO
Symbol
--
Exchange
OTC
TRACE Eligibility
YES
Issuer Information
Issue Date
11/12/2004
Dated Date
11/12/2004
First Coupon Date
07/15/2005
Next Coupon
01/15/2015
Last Coupon
--
Workout Date
01/15/2015
Original Issue Amount
--
Issue Price
--
Coupon Information
Coupon Type
FIXED
Current Rate Effective Date
11/08/2004
Day Count Basis
30/360
Reset Frequency
--
Benchmark Reference
--
Benchmark Formula
--
Next Reset Date
--
Next Reset Rate
--
Minimum Rate
--
Maximum Rate
--
Convertible Information
Convertible
NO
Share Amount
--
CUSIP (of equity security)
--
Date (Convertible Information)
--
Foreign Information
Global Indicator
NO
Foreign
NO
International
NO
Primary Country
--
Domicile Country
--

[jerrylev]

OK Ron, so let say the symbol changed, Is it a CIC and does the NOL go away? JPM took WMB and so at some point, the bonds may or may not change name but it is irrelevant for us.

What is the meaning of the name change in your expert opinion?