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hungary_hippo

04/30/19 2:24 PM

#224784 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

WOW !! BEAUTIFULLY DONE..I cant thank you enough for taking so much of your valuable time to answer ..you are a great asset to this board..thanks again..

sukus

04/30/19 2:33 PM

#224790 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Thanks Senti. Well written summary and excellent post.

reg2015

04/30/19 2:37 PM

#224791 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Sentiment stocks, I really appreciate your taking your time and knowledge to again review the long trail that this company and its science has taken.

10 years, 800 million dollars, 4 countries, 80 + sites, 331 patients in the phase III trial and others in other arms.

JMHO, Ms. Linda Powers has truly demonstrated why she one very smart and competent woman. I put my faith in her to bring this trial to the "finishline".

You, as a poster and as a human being have also demonstrated to me that you are one smart and dedicated woman who has done so much for me to show what this is all about. I would be clueless without you and others who have taken so much time and energy to explain how trials and testing is accomplished in the real world of Bio Technology.

Thank you and all who contribute to this blog. Peace Reg 2015

xoma4578

04/30/19 3:11 PM

#224798 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Thank you, Senti.

ososilver

04/30/19 3:32 PM

#224810 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Absolutely a thing of beauty, indeed!

CaptainObvious

04/30/19 7:01 PM

#224854 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

You are a treasure

Lorie3168

04/30/19 7:30 PM

#224858 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Senti. I’ve been here for a long time and never tire of your posts!! I hope to meet you and thank you face to face someday!

pennymonster1

04/30/19 8:17 PM

#224866 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Great summary, thank you

Kam8

04/30/19 9:18 PM

#224869 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

What a Great post it is. Dear Senti, Thanks alot your efforts

Kam8

04/30/19 9:29 PM

#224871 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

So Dcvax L will be approved by 4 RAs anytime. Fingers crossed

marzan

04/30/19 10:09 PM

#224872 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Thanks senti. I think your post should be stickyed to help new investor enough to know about this Company and DCVax. Well written!

HappyLibrarian

04/30/19 10:09 PM

#224873 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

NWBO has all but outsourced their shareholder relations. Even I appreciate the effort put into this post but the fact that this outsourcing is still going on shows that NWBO remains committed to avoiding transparency to the company’s owners.

biosectinvestor

04/30/19 11:05 PM

#224881 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Some of us think the PARTIAL Halt which allowed patients to still enroll was due to the fact that it was a placebo trial and that withholding the treatment from the placebo patients was unethical, which is a real thing that happens with oncology trials with a placebo arm, where patients are doing very well...and they knew that all the patients were living longer, in my opinion.

If the treatment had accelerated progression of what is an extremely aggressive and deadly cancer, that would have been a safety issue and the FDA would have required an updated disclosure to patients, at the least, so that they could choose to stop treatment. I believe they would have told the doctors and company and it would be necessary to disclose it to the patients. That did not happen. Instead, patients were allowed to continue in the trial and a good number completed an initial enrollment having not received any treatment.

Placebo trials are not common in oncology because of the moral issues. They are only used where expectations are that the difference between placebo and non-placebo will be very small, so you need to have the placebo arm to demonstrate the benefit. In my opinion, it became clear earlier than those on the bulletin boards today realize, to the DMC that the effect was large enough that maintaining the trial as originally planned, would be unethical for the placebo patients and could substantially reduce their survival.

That’s just my personal opinion, after much research generally on these sorts of matters with oncology trials. I could certainly be wrong and I am sure many may think I am... but that’s my view as a strong possibility and I think stronger than the reasons generally proposed. Again, just my opinion. The improved survival is striking, and there were unblinded arms too, for patients who did not qualify for the trial. Those patients did very well and it was known early on, the treatment was recognized in the UK as a very innovative treatment, because patients were doing so well.

But, you still have to successfully complete a trial like this and let the data evolve over a reasonable amount of time to demonstrate the apparent efficacy and the DMC and regulators are the only parties that can officially know what causes such a halt, so that the trial can proceed on an orderly basis. Company officials are never notified. That is a kind of hard indicator though of what may be occurring when you see these kinds of facts... it was definitely not a safety issue. Most theories proposed are, in my view, inconsistent with the facts as observed, in reality, not in billboard land. Land where people must argue with shorts who put out their own theories as the premise of every discussion on the PARTIAL halt.

Good luck. I’m no expert, but I have a strong opinion.

Quoting the very good summary but adding my difference in this point though I din’t Necessarily mean to suggest this is not what the general belief is and it’s all an excellent summary Senti... just adding my view for the person asking...

“The reason for the screening halt (which was lifted in Feb 2017) was never given but most think it was due, initially, to what appeared to be too many treatment patients eventing earlier than the the control arm patients. The ones that could see that would be the data monitoring committee (DMC) who could view the trial unblinded. Some think the DMC tried to halt the entire trial, but the company persevered claiming that all the patients were living longer, despite the early progression. One should note that the head of the DMC was also working on the scientific advisory board (SAB) of a competing dendritic cell company, and his brother was on the board of directors and SAB of the same company during the entire time, unbeknownst to anyone including NWBO. You can make of that what you will.”

Doc logic

05/01/19 8:37 AM

#224912 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

sentiment_stocks,

Very nice summary of events related to the DCVax-L Phase 3 trial. Best wishes.

MI Dendream

05/03/19 6:29 PM

#225399 RE: sentiment_stocks #224783

Hungry Hippo (Luv the handle, BTW) -

While I have the utmost respect for Senti and do not wish to sprinkle on her favor, I must say that I for one am in the minority then that does not buy into this thesis. As I do not believe FDA, Bundesinstitut, Canadian Health Ministry or similar UK authorities would allow the last 32 patients to be placed only on treatment after the halt in new patient screening and not randomly placed on placebo as well, if the DMS believed to be seeing harm by means of Tumor progression in treated patients. Nor would they allow patients previously randomized to treatment to continue treatment if they believed it may be harming patients. Instead, they would halt all treatment until the dust settles, data gets analyzed and patient safety is ensured. We are not talking about lack of efficacy, we are talking harm in this scenario. I will offer you another possible scenario.

A blinded futility assessment was performed in the summer of 2015, after which the DSM recommended the study be stopped due to efficacy seen in treated patients as measured by sustained tumor progression. As the company, it’s invstigators, and their study patients remained blind, the company overruled the DSM and desired to continue the trial to obtain data on OS. FDA agreed after 1) requiring a halt in new screening until the final PFS event rate is triggered and PFS sensitivity analyzed, 2) requiring all patients currently in screening be put on treatment only (directive to CRO only, not known by others before 2017), and 3) agreement to lift the halt after reaching 248 PFS as defined by protocol, and if the company agrees to close enrollment and 331 should PFS remain positive.

The decision of when to stop the study was predefined in the protocol and approved by 80-84 IRBs globally which means 84 ethics advisors and external attorneys reviewed and agreed to end by 1 of the following

- early termination by sponsor, or
- after reaching 248 PFS events, or
- after reaching 233 OS events, (not 100 alive or LTFU, but 233 confirmed by ME deaths), OR
- after Last Patient In (LPI) reaches 3 year assessment in trial and becomes LPO.

It was the companies choice which of these in any case other than safety (even lack of efficacy by PFS if they wish to pony up the bucks and docs/patients stay enthused. They were heading towards 233 when they reached only those cured of GBM which was about 95 and LTFU. Then just as they did the last data cut before LPO, patient number 233 dies and it’s all moot. Study ends in November, Dr. Liau collects accolades from her Neuroonc peers and her broad US MD community of about 2 million who decide to induct her into the American Academy of Medicine, data gets finalized and any day now.....

Top Line Success gets reported - IMHO