Their loss our gain, thats what some get for getting talked out of their shares or for becoming impatient, I've done it before, I was talked out of 20,000,000 shares of ICNB that I bought at .0004 I ended up buying 8,000,000 at .0008 and sold them in the .02 and .03 area, I made out but I could have made out more than twice what I did, if I had just held.