A knock off of a knock off, is called a profit, for us shareholders! You don't have to buy the phones, you don't have to invest in Utopya, but you surely won't profit when they start selling. However, you do find good gold nuggets of information, although they are construed considerably by the time you post the information. But, I do enjoy deciphering the facts from the speculations, so keep them coming!
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