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BBANBOB

04/02/18 12:58 PM

#515523 RE: BBANBOB #515518

AT THE OPTION imho with BOTH P and K's prospectuses having been CANCELLED out by the court, WMIH now has the RIGHT to do as they see fit and what is IN THE BEST INTERESTS of the company!!!!!!!!!!!

How else are WMI's LEGACY ASSETS gonna return to WMIH so it can MAKE money for ALL???????????

Preserving cash is always best, you ever hear the comment "NEVER USE YOUR OWN MONEY when ya can borrow it", that is because that way you ways GAIN your own money, spend it once and it is POOF GHONDI never to be gotten back.................................
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MadBadger

04/02/18 4:09 PM

#515563 RE: BBANBOB #515518

With The 1031 Exchange the Assets are Realized but they are Not recognized. So they(Assets) are there but in order not to pay taxes they Are Not Recognized. Also in Order for the Merger transaction to be Done Properly the Assets may be liquidated for cash but they have to be placed in a Qualified Intermediary to hold. The tax payer can never have his finger prints on the cash- not to spend, not to borrow against nothing. The tax payer has 45 days to identify a replacement property and complete a form with the identification information. After that th tax payer has a short time to close on the replacement property, for which the funds in the hands of the qualified intermediary may be used, if done exactly right the taxes are deferred. It there in the writing. This was Planned way before, why create the Exchange 2 years before declaring Bankruptcy?
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TriDaddy

04/02/18 9:25 PM

#515598 RE: BBANBOB #515518

If we get the SFV conversion, can we really expect to be paid back dividends? Both former K's and P's were "non-cumulative", why would new issued shares provide improved terms? I hold escrow markers for both.



What is 'Noncumulative'
Noncumulative describes a type of preferred stock that does not pay the stockholder any unpaid or omitted dividends. Preferred stock shares are issued with a stated dividend rate, which may be a stated dollar amount or a percentage of the par value. If the corporation chooses not pay dividends in a given year, the investor does not have the right to claim any of the unpaid dividends.

WAMPQ

QUANTUMONLINE.COM SECURITY DESCRIPTION: Washington Mutual Inc., 7.75% Series R Non-Cumulative Perpetual Convertible Preferred Stock, liquidation preference $1000 per share, and with no stated maturity. Non-cumulative distributions of 7.75% ($77.50) per annum are paid quarterly on 3/15, 6/15, 9/15 & 12/15 to holders of record on the record date which is the first day of the month in which the payment is due (NOTE: the ex-dividend date is at least 2 business days prior to the record date). Dividends paid by the preferred are eligible for the 15% tax rate on dividends under normal holding restrictions and are also eligible for the dividends received deduction for corporate holders (see page S-50 of the prospectus for further information). The preferred shares are convertible any time at the holder's option into 47.0535 common shares of Washington Mutual Inc. (NYSE: WM), an initial conversion price of $21.25 per common share. On or after 12/18/2012, if the price of the common stock exceeds 130% of the conversion price for 20 of any 30 consecutive trading days, the company may, at their option, force the preferred shares to be converted into common shares at the then prevailing conversion price. In regard to the payment of dividends and upon liquidation, the preferred shares rank equally with other preferreds and senior to the common shares of the company. See the IPO prospectus for further information on the convertible preferred stock and the conversion provisions by clicking on the ‘Link to IPO Prospectus’ provided below.

WAMKQ

QUANTUMONLINE.COM SECURITY DESCRIPTION: Washington Mutual, Depositary Shares each representing a 1/40,000th Interest in a Share of Series K Perpetual Non-Cumulative Floating Rate Preferred Stock, liquidation preference $25 per depositary share, redeemable at the issuer's option on or after 9/15/2011 at $25 per depositary share plus delared and unpaid dividends, and with no stated maturity. Non-cumulative floating rate distributions are paid quarterly on 3/15, 6/15, 9/15 & 12/15 to holders of record on the first day of the month is which the payment is due. The floating rate distributions will be paid at a rate equal to the greater of the 3-Month LIBOR plus 0.70%, or 4.00%. Dividends paid by the preferred are eligible for the 15% tax rate on dividends under normal restrictions and are also eligible for the dividends received deduction for corporate holders (see page S-28 of the prospectus for further information). In regards to payment of dividends and upon liquidation, the preferred shares rank equally with other preferreds and senior to the common shares of the company. See the IPO prospectus for further information on the preferred stock by clicking on the ‘Link to IPO Prospectus’ provided below.

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TriDaddy

04/02/18 10:01 PM

#515601 RE: BBANBOB #515518

Don't know, but it is a questionable item to me as I think about expectations.

Also, BBAN's where did you get 500,000 issued P's? The excerpt in my original post stated there were 3,000,000 of those. That's $3B face value. I was not able to locate the original prospectus, so I cannot confirm.