Sales have just recently begun, we have products for sale, patent liscensing, etc, with many more coming....many otc's, pinkies dilute many more millions than VDRM $$$$! with no products.... hope this helps...
I figured that we can still make some money up to an O/S of 1B, with the projections I've seen here. After that it gets dicey. Its a race to see if we get the projected revs first. Not like our other place is any better. At least they are getting SOME revs here.