I would expect they announce their first revenue at any time from their first sales of CHS. After generally a 6 month testing time of CHS they would receive production volumn orders or recurring revenues starting immediately after that 6 month testing period when companies who use CHS long term make their production volumn orders so they can produce their products with CHS and then from there it generally takes those customers some time ( 6to 12 months )to get those new products on the market. Coretec can get revenue now from test samples , predicted 500,000 dollars from those samples early 2018 , and then as more companies want test samples more revenue and so forth.Then revenues immediately after 6 months when companies say yes we want CHS and they order CHS to build out their tech to get it on the market and recurring revenues as companies continue to order CHS . I think the 500,000 perdiction could be higher since they have made it clear that they have had a bigger response than they thought they would get. Just at the battery conference they had over 20 companies who said they were interested in CHS and over half of those were making orders for testing according to the news release on the conference.Mr Kraft said in July at the callin they have signed NDAs with companies but never said how many