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ForReal

01/15/18 2:34 PM

#86332 RE: SoxFan #86329

You seem to forget the last amnesty agreement. Promises for stricter immigration and border security were promised that time too. This time, those promises must be part of the package. I believe, if memory serves me right, that we gave 4 million illegal aliens amnesty and we are still struggling to get immigration reform done to date.

Once burnt twice shy, that is why a list of other agreements must be a part of this DACA agreement.
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BlindSquirrelFindsNuts

01/15/18 2:38 PM

#86333 RE: SoxFan #86329

The racist base is all he has left. The snake oil elixir is beginning to wear off quickly. BLUE WAVE less than 10 months away now!
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Tearex

01/15/18 4:02 PM

#86360 RE: SoxFan #86329

Give the racist calling a rest. You're the one that makes race the big issue, because you can not argue based on merit. So you just call me racist to try and shut down debate on the issue.

You don't define me, you define yourself!

He caused this shitshow and he owns it.

Dems just want clean cut amnesty and citizenship, they don't want to fix anything.
You can blame congress all you want, but the fact remains, that when Dems had a super majority, requiring zero help from Republicans, they showed that they did not want to fix anything. They wanted to continue to use race. And now Dems are holding dreamers hostage, because if they wanted a deal, it could be had.

Democrats care more about stopping Trumps wall promise, than they care about the dreamers.

The issue of chain migration is directly related to the DACA bill, as citizen ship for 20+ family members of the dreamer are to follow. Suddenly it's amnesty for 20 million people instead of the Dreamers that were used by the parents to get the foot in the door. And the wall is also a deterrent to future DACA seekers from illegally invading the US.

Notice. Nothing in my stance had anything to do with Race. But the racist base of the democrat party will insist it does, because without the use of racism, by the racist themselves, the argument falls flat on it's face.
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janice shell

01/15/18 10:01 PM

#86444 RE: SoxFan #86329

Hopefully it doesn't work and all this to appeal to his racist base.

I don't even think it's that. He needs to win. that's the only thing that matters to him. So they have to come up with some kind of plan he'll think was his idea. They were close to that, and then he screwed it up by talking about shithole/shithouse companies.