I have found Jollymon1958, that from my experience, yes "traders" have points at which they will enter and a point at which they will get out but they are MENTAL possitions on which they will take action rather than a Stop Order on the books of an MM. Case in point, today, on comparative light volume on the downside, orders went off only to have a fairly close turnaround. An astute Trader might not have been faked out with that type of action. The trader mi