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11/20/17 11:26 PM

#192204 RE: sissyjane1 #192199

They don't have patents on keyboard encryption or dual whatever! Their patent is on how they do it. Many companies have the same security features they just have a different process that doesn't infringe on how SFOR does it.

Kingwampum

11/20/17 11:30 PM

#192207 RE: sissyjane1 #192199

I think entrust’s patent was more simple and basic, but predates our patent. SFOR expounded on that patent and made it a “true ooba”. SFOR needs to infringe on their patent for ooba and entrust needs the true fully functional ooba for future business.

mrdrifter

11/21/17 7:53 AM

#192238 RE: sissyjane1 #192199


From splithappens. No need to panic, 6 more coming.

Thanks to all that attended the SHM and posted some info. about their experience.

I'm personally glad SFOR got Entrust out of the way. I can tell you that according to Entrust lawsuit claims, they hold the patent for a security layer that authenticates by multiple servers with a priority date just months prior to SFOR's Sept. 5, 2000 OOBA priority date. For anyone that hasnt read the filing claims and the patents of both companies, they both appear to use the same method of verifying a user. But it looks like SFOR authenticates with a "true OOBA". So it looks like SFOR and Entrust had to hashout some details and it took time (hense the months it took to settle).

IMO, it wasnt a loss for either side, I believe it was a win for both Entrust and SFOR. SFOR and Entrust may have contracts with each other allowing the respective companies to use each others patents to strengthen their own and to not litigate this issues ever again. To me this would be huge, now we have stronger patents that are less likely to be disputed by other infringers. This means that, if I'm correct in my speculation, no other infringer would be able to claim prior art for the portion of Entrusts patents and use it against SFOR as a defense.

If my theory holds true, we have more backing through Entrust patents. And details of these contracts between SFOR and Entrust may never be released except when required during a lawsuit.

So I am more thrilled than ever before about the ongoing and future lawsuits. We may have bought more fire power backed by Entrust patents.

Is this far fetched?

Thats up to everyone here to discuss.

Just remember 6 infringers left that do not have patents and have plenty of coin. Duo Markman hearings in just a couple of weeks and I cant wait!

ALL IMO.