Replies to post #125607 on Bravatek Solutions Inc (BVTK)

[shotsky]

Buying out existing loans is not equity investment. It is refinancing. What I SAID is that equity investors is a dead end because there are not shares to sell to them. That still is true.
And, I never insinuated that equity investors are toxic. They actually buy stock at a discount. There is nothing to be repaid. Toxic lenders lend MONEY and when it isn't paid, they get millions of shares for literally nothing - a totally different scenario.
Equity investors can't take preferred shares either, unless they are already within the AS. So that is a dead idea too.
So, none of those ideas has a snowball's chance in hell.
Even if an investor was willing to buy all the debt, it would STILL be convertible, but with a later due date. That has been happening for the last year...but the result is always the same when there is no revenue...
So, as I said, no revenue, more loans, more dilution. It is a treadmill until the revenue starts, and that won't show on the next two fins.
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm happy if you all do. I've already gotten my money out of BVTK, and over $100K of yours too. Couldn't be happier. So, yes, I get it. I do at least understand what is feasible. And most of the hairbrained ideas posted here are simply ridiculous. Like the billionaire investor that will buy out our shares and then just give them to the company to 'retire'. Yeah, that will happen...

[3Rivers]

and then of course there's this as a means to an end...

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[RDY2ROCK]

Just flipper/spinner driven! ;-)

Best,
R2R

[MoneyForNuthin]

I think you may be missing the point - certain experienced traders absolutely "get it." You are absolutely correct, it is very simple to take out the debt with equity investment - WITHIN the current share structure. It just doesn't fit the narrative. False claims about what supposedly cannot be done with equity investment serve only to affect confidence. And you can see that it has been working. Look at the pps swings over the past 6 weeks. And now look at the volume - a very low percentage of the O/S has been trading (great majority are being held long), but with enough volume that a handful of traders have been able to flip their 5, 10 or more millions of shares multiple times... on the backs of the weak-handed traders who either do not understand these things - or don't care to even look at such details, trading only on board sentiment and chart T/A. The dollar volume is perfect for this... every time 5M shares is flipped for a 10- or 15-tick gain, that equates to $5,000 to $7,500 profit. Do this every week or two, and it's worth it for some to spend all day at the computer creating and maintaining whatever narrative might convince the less-knowledgeable traders that it's time to sell their shares.

The good thing is, this can only be done so many times before the weak or ignorant are all but gone, and every time the company delivers something more... there's added pressure for the price to move. Every time the price moves, some of these flippers get left behind, some of them help the movement by chasing so as not to lose their next selling opportunity in the higher range (giving a similar effect as when shorts have to cover), and yes, a few will refill their position pretty much intact with a perfect flip before it moves out of range. To me - and many - it's not worth the time and risk... and I have a life. With the recent flips and price-trade action, chart T/A and company news (now current, 8K's and PR's), it's pretty obvious that the price is going to resume the upward movement - probably in a pretty big way.