Replies to post #123972 on Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Inc (KBLB)

[bananarama]

KBLB has MS silkworms. MS will be part of the commercialization deal in Vietnam, IMHO. Of course, there are folks on this board who know a lot more than I do regarding our silk worms, especially, MS. They would be better equipped to answer the question of whether or not MS is dead.

[es1]

It was reeled by the same people who screwed up the DS.
It was woven by WM.

You should ask who took pictures of it for the trademark of the nonexistent product

[DimesForShares]

Would appreciate evidence of your 'No MS' claim.

Jdlamont, I've not seen evidence of some of the statements that you made. We don't disagree completely, but if you could provide references, I would appreciate it.

I believe that MS was produced in Vietnam before the government shut down the silkworm farm in Lam Dong due to concerns about GMO organisms. I've seen an article about the facility there being shut down, though it"s not at hand.

KBLB never disclosed the location of their pilot plant, though again, my assumption is that this was in Lam Dong province, Vietnam. During a conference call, KT said the facility was discontinued due to issues of 'quality control.' That, of course, might be evidence of a second pilot plant.

We know that the silk produced in the pilot plant was reeled at that plant. When Warwick Mills attempted to weave fabric, the silk had to be re-reeled (by the company which botched the most recent reeling of DS).

Bananarama has proposed that the pilot plant produced a supply of MS that still exists. I'm not at all confident of that claim, though KBLB has recently confirmed the existence of MS silkworms in their indication that they were considering a cross-breeding between MS and DS to produce a new generation of silk with the characteristics of both.

I suspect (without evidence) that many companies would be happy with MS instead of DS. Without a doubt, DS is a stiffer fabric than MS. This can be concluded from their reports on the strength of both silks.

MS would make a great silk for something like non-flammable fabrics (underwear, t-shirts) for soldiers. The strength of DS is not needed there, and the stiffness is not really a good quality in underwear -- extra chafing.

Your statement "Go back and reread the companies statements of not committing resources to MS when better more promising and commercially significant polymers were in the pipeline" is difficult to interpret. Your use of the plural 'companies' suggests multiple companies, rather than the possessive 'company's'. Do you mean several companies have decided to pursue other polymers, or that KBLB decided to pursue other polymers? Polymers, by the way, can refer to lots of different kinds of fibers. Nylon and polyester are polymers. I don't know of any synthetic polymers (such as nylon or polyester) that come anywhere close to approximating KBLB's MS. Nor do I know of any other goo-based company (Amsilk, Bolt Threads) that is producing a material that has the strengths of MS.

Any clarification on your post would be appreciated. I don't presume to be omniscient even on the topic of KBLB.

I conclude:
1) KBLB has a germ line of MS silkworms/eggs (supported by comment about proposed cross-breeding by KT)
2) MS