I spent a lot of time with mailman at the SHM you can go to the bank on his email Not only did Huff show respect to mailman but if you read the min by min notes I posted from the SHM so did Dumas Enough said If you dont buy here YOUR CRAZY from value investment point I would love for a basher to bash me here Let's talk value now that we are in VALUE LAND Come on SAM I have you off iggy you want to play