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Out The Window

02/06/17 1:37 PM

#108466 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

And in the meantime we can partner with Eontec to manufacture....
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Bigspender

02/06/17 1:38 PM

#108467 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

Just seems like this has all been in the works for awhile now. Plans been in place and is now being implemented. Not an impulse to get that building. Shouldn't take long at all to be up and running. May at the latest.
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rige

02/06/17 2:13 PM

#108469 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

Thats one point of view, allow me to give you my point of view having personal experience in property developments.

A new owner can have the old owner give approval to the purchaser to lodge development/building applications Before settlement, this pre-approval can even be a condition of the contract.

Now knowing that Prof. Li has been active Before the March 2016 announcement we can safely say that he has been looking at properties for some time now. We can also say that he has had professionals, such as your example of architects, as well as zoning experts, attorneys etc, inspect and assess the properties he is interested in Before making the decision to spend his $8 million and buy it.

With the First Eontec machine well on its way, i believe Prof. Li has already done his homework and is not waiting until handover before finding out what he can and cant do to the property.



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mowo

02/06/17 2:23 PM

#108471 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

This all sounds reasonable, but we can lean on Eontec to produce parts while we are unable to do so. Win/win!
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PayMEmf

02/06/17 3:00 PM

#108473 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

it sounds a touch negative Jm...why would you want to share this when we are on the edge of our seats waiting for news to come down the pipe? Are you trying to buy back in at a cheaper price?
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Watts Watt

02/06/17 3:17 PM

#108474 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

The typical escrow period allowed for most commercial properties is 90 days plus/minus. There is really no need to try to hack away at this. Further, most new property owners are not going to rush to install requisite piping and wiring for a custom facility prior to excrow closing.

Indeed all of the permits required for building modifications and the timing of preliminary to final inspections doesn't run as smooth as one hopes for.

Since this is a unique use of this facility, indeed many modifications will be made to accomodate this operation.

I would suggest that this plant will not be operational prior to the second half of 2017.

Always best to be conservative when beginning a new start-up operation.
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Syzygenic

02/06/17 3:33 PM

#108476 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

I'll join in on the conjecture. Haha.

Hi, Jollymon. I don't see anything unusual about closing in a thirty day time frame with a vacant property and a cash buyer. Of course, an inspection could reveal some concerns about the property, but most likely, the seller simply makes a concession here and there. No biggie. On the other hand, there could be underground fuel storage tanks in need of remediation that could throw another million dollars in expense into the purchase (or sale). Who knows? Not us.

I question whether or not there are "almost always" unforeseeable delays. Unforeseeables don't--by default--always result in delays. They'd have to be fairly significant unforseeables, and those are often finance related.

What I am failing to understand, is why you suggest the need for an architect. Most likely, in California, an inspection of the property by a certified commercial inspector is mandatory and would certainly precede the actual sale of the property. I don't think there's any question as to the qualifying usage of 43,000 square feet of floor space. I can't imagine finding that type of a facility outside of a commercial zone suitable for manufacturing, unless it were agricultural, i.e. a fruit packing company or similar. I would certainly assume that Mr. Li is apt enough to build a manufacturing business in a district that encourages it, rather than one that discourages it, especially in California. Sure, Mr. Li may hire an architect, an electrical engineer, or both, but not for the purpose of meeting municipal demands. Rather, to meet the demands of LQMT in the new building, current or otherwise. I would expect ample electricity in a facility with the stated floor space, but the new floor plan will certainly require a differing distribution of power than was previously arranged and required on the floor.

Air quality is another consideration, though it appears to me that LQMT processes don't require massive evacuation or filtering of potentially foul air. I would think that there are plenty of qualified contractors in the region who staff multitudes of qualified individuals chomping at the bit to get onto the next job. It's not like Mr. Li has to have the entire floor prepared for just a couple machines. First things first. "Let's get what we have in there and become operational. Then, as machines come in, we'll accommodate them. In the meantime, let's organize shipping and receiving, material handling and storage, and maintenance." That's me quoting what I'd be saying.

And as for a Certificate of Occupancy (CO), if I'm not mistaken, that only applies to new construction. Correct me if I'm wrong. I can accept being wrong. :)
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Dell_Griffith

02/06/17 4:04 PM

#108482 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

Haha, FUNNY!!! Love this post! HYSTERICAL!!!

Yes, and let me add that Lugee jumped at the chance to buy the building. As a matter of fact, I think I heard he drew out 8 million in hundreds and already handed it to the seller without a contract. In fact, my sources say there is a toxic plume under the building, but Lugee thought it would be a good idea to buy it anyway.



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Eagle1947

02/06/17 4:17 PM

#108486 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

2019
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Dell_Griffith

02/06/17 10:11 PM

#108497 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

I still don't see them being ready to except the new machine in the time line posted here if it is to be believable.



I think that means they have two choices 1) they can leave the machine on the ship until the new location is ready and the ship can repeatedly do circles in the LA harbor while waiting for the factory to be ready and/or the toxic plume engulfs the factory or 2) and this is the more likely scenario - Tom Steipp allegedly has agreed to except and store the machine in his garage until the new location is ready.

In fact, I've heard they have already named Steipp's potential temporary location for the machine as "Tom Steipp's Manufacturing Garage of Excellence." Catchy, ain't it?
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CIMA7

02/07/17 11:21 AM

#108525 RE: Jollymon1958 #108465

I agree with your conservative time-frames. I do not see a problem with escrow closing within the 30-day period. If there were financing it may take longer because of contingencies/conditions such as; inspections, appraisals, etc. The only thing I can think of that could potentially delay escrow is a cloud on title and from what I can see that is highly unlikely.

I have seen several people saying that an Environmental Study could delay escrow. An Environmental Study is nothing more than a formality in the case of the new Liquidmetal building. A Phase I Environmental Study is customary on all commercial properties. A Phase II Environmental Study is only required when an environmental condition is found during the Phase 1 Study.

I'm one of the biggest Unicorns around when it comes to Liquidmetal, but we should all try and be very realistic as to when the new building will be ready for production. I can't see the property being fully built out any sooner than early this summer and that is if everything happens with NO setbacks.

Like many have said here - the timing of the new building being built out does not stop Li from having Eontec or another partner manufacture for us in the interim. Nor does it delay any contracts or prototypes that can be handled in Rancho Santa Margarita.

I personally don't believe the timing of the new building will delay customers from placing orders either. Like I said above, RSM can handle the prototypes and now that Li is on-board and the company has purchased a new building I believe potential customers will have the confidence moving forward to start engineering and production of the prototypes.