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janice shell

12/03/16 2:09 AM

#115508 RE: DarthYoda #115507

You're missing the point. There are no "paid bashers" The reason for that clause was simply because the lender wanted to be able to get out faster if stock price began to tank.
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N4longterm

12/03/16 9:33 PM

#115617 RE: DarthYoda #115507

How is this not an incentive to pay a basher?



Why pay someone, when all he has to do is one more conversion. Dumping those shares will drop the price faster and further, and he makes a little green on those shares instead of paying out.
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DragonBear

12/04/16 3:49 PM

#115646 RE: DarthYoda #115507

How is that not an incentive to pay_a_basher?

Now that's a new one.

If you pay $M for N millions of shares to some scammer, you want the following thing to occur while waiting for the 6 month restriction to come off: The scammer pulses out enough PRs to keep the PPS stable, or even get an IHUB pump party started to get the PPS up a little. After the restriction comes off, you want to insiders to initiate a paid P&D. Something you can dump the millions of shares into. Where you have to judge how the past paid pumps have gone in price movement vs the dump.

The last thing you want to see is an evil basher(s) taking the PPS down 10X while waiting for the restriction to come off. Better none of the evil ones show up, keeping the PPS right where it was while waiting. Next to last is a subsequent pump to fail due to the continued presence of those evil bashers. Either via PPS not moving, or more importantly not enough volume to dump into.

There's absolutely no advantage for the insiders&affiliates to hire a basher to drive down the stock, simply to get more shares upon a conversion. Because that means the PPS has gone down. Is it easier to make money on a dump in a stock which was setup by a pump running from 0001--> 0003, after being bashed down from 001, or one which stayed at 003 for the past 6 months, before the pump arrived?

However, it does pay for them to hire in some pumpers. To help keep the PPS stable. And if the paid pumpers post enough then it's possible to get the stock running, before the insiders stage their paid pump 6 months later. The classic example: Increased post volume, gets the stock onto the IHUB "breakout" stocks. Those who trade that angle come in. More posts, more volume, with the PPS probably rising. Some 3rd party site screener noticing, and they send out a 1 liner Email alert to their clients. In comes more volume, with more of a PPS run. Outside of the minor expense of the initial paid pumpers, it's a free pump. A set up for a very profitable paid P&D 6 months later. All it really requires is a few bogus pulse PRs to give the pumpers material to pump.