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Ecomike

09/27/16 1:51 PM

#55020 RE: Porgie Tirebiter #55017

That says nothing to prove your claim. What is the molar mass of electrons in a Battery? 0.000000000000001% ?

Besides your original claim was about efficiency, not molar mass. Molar mass is irrelevant for stationary power. And you did not limit your original overly broad claim to mobil operations only and your last post implies but does not state it is limited to mobil use, and is thus also flawed.

MVTG/GE data shows that Formic acid has 4 times more recoverable energy density than even Li-ion batteries. So much for your superior battery theory.
Also at-STP, formic acid is about 100 times more energy dense by volume than hydrogen.

http://mantraenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/Mantra-Deck-Marcum-2015.pdf

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Ecomike

09/27/16 1:58 PM

#55021 RE: Porgie Tirebiter #55017

Furthermore, Ballard is abandoning hydrogen fuel cells in favor of methanol fuel cells, and methanol is not as energy dense as formic acid. Also the MVTG formate fuel cells cost about 20% of what Ballard and Plug and Neah power fuel cells cost to build, because MVTG is the first to build a successful fuel cell that eliminated the need for the very costly Nafion DuPont membranes (that fail too easily) and bi-polar electrode plates, that run the cost up 500% above the new MVTG fuel cell designs that are patent issued now.