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biotechrocks

09/24/16 10:42 AM

#76131 RE: dadofmarcmax #76130

Very thoughtful and informative post Dado. Thanks you!
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frrol

09/24/16 11:49 AM

#76137 RE: dadofmarcmax #76130

Always appreciate these explanations. Your theory seems sound to this layman, and is also what the company is operating on. As for the mouse models, they are a vital tool, and can be predictive. Being models only though, I cringe if someone takes them as proof of efficacy (which you sometimes see here). Many successful animal studies don't translate to humans, for many reasons that have to do not directly with the compound but with the imperfection of the animal model itself. Would love to hear your view on the animal models used for 2-73. Eg, the lesion scarring in MJFF's PD study.

Furthermore given the complexity of the CNS, 2-73 might be a therapeutic key to a multi-lock door. That is, it might "fail" until used in combination with another therapy(s). Or it might demonstrate only incremental benefit until then - which is a better outcome because the FDA might still approve it for commercialization. I suspect most cancer therapies fall into this category.

I think it's important to stress that our success depends on several hypotheses being true, including: the S1 receptor's roles, its validity as a therapeutic target, and 2-73's agonistic effect. We are dealing with many hypotheses here, not yet truths. It is also worth mentioning that 2-73 might work even when all the relevant hypotheses are incorrect. This could make some folks' heads spin, but biological science is that complex. There are effective drugs that don't have a clear MOA. A lot of them have their origins in folk medicine.
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McMagyar

09/25/16 9:45 AM

#76161 RE: dadofmarcmax #76130

thanks Dado!
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plexrec

09/25/16 11:25 AM

#76162 RE: dadofmarcmax #76130

Outstanding post!! Thanks dado for your contributions to this board !
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stockaesthetics

09/25/16 7:56 PM

#76168 RE: dadofmarcmax #76130

Great post, dado.

I really do not think that people appreciate the importance of preclinical animal studies. Despite the possibility that results in mice may not translate all the time to results in humans, inbred animals create the most controlled model system that is possible, further eliminating many problems and challenges faced in human studies. There are also many obvious ethical considerations and concerns associated with experimentation on humans (not that there aren't ethical concerns in mice, but that's opening another whole can of worms), which can be bypassed in animal studies.

If only the people who bashed preclinical work would volunteer themselves as human experimentation, we might be able to solve this problem once and for all :)