Thanks, I plan on it. I know another trader that does a lot with P&F and he always stresses that it has no time frame. Even with that lack of time the b/o's and reversals have some strong consistency. AEL does have a nice support level that I like. On CEMP I like the mix of tute investors and their 91% ownership with only 52million O/S as well as the chart. A little extra volatility due to the tight float. Be Green