Replies to post #251024 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[janice shell]

Sorry, it's a VERY big deal. It's all over everywhere. And it'll be tomorrow's most important story, rightly or wrongly.

[F6]

DesertDrifter -- first, of course, the irony is strong

then, consider, what would have ensued if Michelle Obama had been caught doing the same in her 2008 convention speech?

and, it goes to both the (profound lack of) competence of Trump and his operation, and, in how/however it turns out they react to this, his/their (profound lack of) ability to acknowledge a reality and deal with it

those lines of Melania's, err Michelle's, were widely seen as the highlight of Melania's performance, which was in turn widely seen as the highlight of the convention's opening night

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
It was truly an honor to introduce my wife, Melania. Her speech and demeanor were absolutely incredible. Very proud! #GOPConvention
9:14 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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It was truly an honor to introduce my wife, Melania. Her speech and demeanor were absolutely incredible. Very proud! #GOPConvention

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 19, 2016

(with comments)]

the lift really was pretty spectacular -- and the contrast, between the sincere, real, intelligent original and the brazenly at best blithely clueless retread from/recited by a woman who's never had to work hard for anything in her life, at least approaches stunning (latest word from the Trump campaign is, apparently, that Melania wrote the speech herself -- and that anyone who has noticed or is talking/writing about this should be hung on the Mall, along with Hillary [{linked in} http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=123933875 and preceding and following]):

Melania Trump's RNC speech vs. Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech

Published on Jul 18, 2016 by Jonah Green [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC78Oy6THbKBiXKH-nJlwcTA / http://www.youtube.com/user/bluelemniscate , http://www.youtube.com/user/bluelemniscate/videos ]
As noticed by Jarrett Hill, it appears whole sections of Mrs. Trump's speech were lifted from the First Lady's address in 2008.
Jarrett Hill
@JarrettHill
CORRECTION: Melania stole a whole graph from Michelle's speech. #GOPConvention
WATCH: https://youtu.be/53Ei2dSDsFY?t=2m4s …

8:26 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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CORRECTION: Melania stole a whole graph from Michelle's speech. #GOPConvention
WATCH: https://t.co/8BCOwXAHSy pic.twitter.com/zudpDznGng

— jarrett, chill 🫶🏽✨🍉 (@jarretthill) July 19, 2016

(with comments)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3oB_3fiW4 [with comments] [hopefully this YouTube will last; many others available via e.g. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=melania+michelle , http://www.youtube.com/results?q=melania+michelle&sp=CAI%253D ]

and one that will last:

Comparing Melania Trump and Michelle Obama's speeches

Published on Jul 18, 2016 by CNN [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw / http://www.youtube.com/user/CNN , http://www.youtube.com/user/CNN/videos ]
At least one passage in Melania Trump's speech Monday night at the Republican National Convention plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech to the Democratic National Convention in 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcbiGsDMmCM [with comments]

and now:

Statement on Melania Trump Speech
- July 19, 2016 -
"In writing her beautiful speech, Melania's team of writers took notes on her life’s inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking. Melania’s immigrant experience and love for America shone through in her speech, which made it such a success.”
-Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/statement-on-melania-trump-speech

for the record, Melania's complete speech, with the intro (at the end missing only the very brief one-sentence 'and here is my wonderful wife Melania', quick embrace and smooch, Donald beats hasty retreat, Melania to the podium):

Donald Trump Entrance at GOP Convention (C-SPAN)

Published on Jul 18, 2016 by C-SPAN [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb--64Gl51jIEVE-GLDAVTg / http://www.youtube.com/user/CSPAN/videos , http://www.youtube.com/user/CSPAN/videos ]
Donald Trump enters the Republican National Convention to introduce his wife Melania Trump. Full video here:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?412399-101/republican-national-convention-day-1-evening-session
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_v1FwosV_U [with comments]

Melania Trump FULL REMARKS GOP Convention (C-SPAN)

Published on Jul 18, 2016 by C-SPAN
Melania Trump delivers remarks at the Republican National Convention. More videos here:
http://www.c-span.org/republicannationalconvention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRpuHBURKg [with comments] [also at e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3deLkAgLuD0 (with comments)]

and Michelle's 2008 speech:

Michelle Obama Keynote Address at DNC

Uploaded on Aug 25, 2008 by C-SPAN
Michelle Obama, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, gave the keynote address at the first day of the 2008 Democratic National Convention. After her comments, Sen. Obama (D-IL) greeted the audience via remote camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=790hG6qBPx0 [with comments]

(linked in):

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105164907 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120749996 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=123856033 and preceding and following

[Susie924]

Similarities? LOL How do you say PLAGIARIZE?

Link on bottom shows tweets and video.



Campaign denies Melania Trump's speech plagiarizes parts of Michelle Obama's

By Gregory Krieg and Eugene Scott, CNN
Updated 7:57 AM ET, Tue July 19, 2016

(CNN)The Donald Trump campaign on Tuesday denied allegations that Melania Trump plagiarized a Michelle Obama speech on the first night of the Republican National Convention, calling the accusation "just really absurd."

"To think that she would do something like that knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night is just really absurd," Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."
At least one passage in Trump's speech Monday night plagiarized from Obama's address to the Democratic National Convention in 2008.
Side-by-side comparisons of the transcripts show the text in Trump's address following, nearly to the word, the would-be future first lady's own from the first night of the Democratic convention in Denver nearly eight years ago.
Manafort said the words Melania used were not "cribbed" but are common words.
"There's no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech. These were common words and values. She cares about her family," Manafort said. "To think that she'd be cribbing Michelle Obama's words is crazy."
Manafort: Plagiarism accusations are crazy


Manafort said attacks on Trump's speech are due to Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, being "threatened" by Trump.
"This is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, she seeks out to demean her and take her down. It's not going to work," he said.

The controversy quickly overshadowed the speech, which was to have been her introduction to voters. It focused on her immigration to the US and her love for her husband.

A Republican operative familiar with how the campaign was handling the speeches said a number of senior aides had a role, edited Melania's speech, suggested changes and provided guidance. Manafort told CNN's Phil Mattingly earlier Tuesday that he wasn't involved in drafting the speech and served solely in a sign-off role.

The Trump campaign released a statement on the speech after the similarities were uncovered, but the statement did not mention the plagiarism charge.
"In writing her beautiful speech, Melania's team of writers took notes on her life's inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking. Melania's immigrant experience and love for America shone through in her speech, which made it such a success," according to Jason Miller, the senior communications adviser.


Earlier in the day, Melania Trump told NBC's Matt Lauer: "I read once over it, that's all, because I wrote it ... with (as) little help as possible."


Here is Trump, on Monday:
"From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily lives. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son," Trump said.
And we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow. Because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them."

And here is Obama, on August 25, 2008:
"And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you're going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don't know them, and even if you don't agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and to pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children -- and all children in this nation -- to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them."

The reaction:
"(To be honest), I was more offended by just about every other speech than Melania's plagiarized paragraphs," former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau jokingly tweeted as the accusations went viral hours after Trump's address.

Tbh, I was more offended by just about every other speech than Melania's plagiarized paragraphs.

Journalist Jarrett Hill seems to have been one of the first to notice the similarities on Twitter.

Jarrett Hill @JarrettHill
Melania must’ve liked Michelle Obama’s 2008 Convention speech, since she plagiarized it.#GOPConvention #RNCinCLE

He's a big fan of the Obamas, and told CNN over the phone that one particular line from Michelle Obama's 2008 speech really spoke to him: "To know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them."
When he heard Melania Trump start saying "the only limit to your achievements," he knew something was wrong.
Hill said he then Googled Michelle Obama's speech and saw the similar lines.
"It was kind of a total recall moment," he said.
After he posted the comparison on Twitter, his tweet garnered 16,000 retweets.

Jarrett Hill @JarrettHill
CORRECTION: Melania stole a whole graph from Michelle's speech. #GOPConvention
WATCH:

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"Um. This is becoming a thing," he later tweeted.

Never gonna let you down?

In an even stranger twist, some on social media posited that Trump surreptitiously Rickrolled -- a common Internet meme involving singer Rick Astley -- everyone in the middle of her speech.
"He will never give up," she said of her husband. "And most importantly, he will never, ever let you down."
The chorus of the 80s classic sounds very similar: "Never gonna give you up/ Never gonna let you down/ Never gonna run around and desert you."
A bit of background -- Rickrolling is where you get someone to unwittingly click on a link to the video of the Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up."So, for example, if someone were to tell you to click here, saying it's another article about Melania Trump, and you click on that link, you would be taken to an Astley video and thus have been Rickrolled.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/index.html