Replies to post #66710 on NorthWest Biotherapeutics Inc (NWBO)

[maverick_1]

From AFraudstein re Pipe Placement of 7/5:bottom of post 66202

The buyers of this week's deal were PIPE funds, which means they've already sold the stock they bought. They only care about the free warrants.

MARKET ACTION DOES NOT SUPPORT, NOR DOES TODAY's SHORT INTEREST REPORT! what Manipulator AFraudstein indicates above.

What Sentiment and Flipper were thinking: post 65662

maverick_1 Monday, 06/27/16 08:55:38 PM
Re: sentiment_stocks post# 65658
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Expanding on my theory, barring a plausible alternative being presented here, is how I see the short's main concerns being locking in a profit as the incremental below say the 60 cts level is small,, relative to diminution, to vaporization of it, to possible losses are the outcomes depending on one or more or all of the following materializing in the near future:

1.NWBO will find funding!
2.Ten months and counting on resolving the screening halt possibly due to mfr consistency that is in, hopefully some end stage of resolution.
3.Former FBI Mr. Black's (?) apparently been at it for six months.
4.Down towards the final stages of Ph3 DCVAXL
5.Prelim's and staging for Direct Ph2 beyond just MD Anderson
6.Perhaps finalization with three partners as it relates to Checkpoint Inhibitors

So IMHO the Shorts are playing with FIRE with the OVERTIME.

And WHY the priority in closing out Naked Shorts relates to #3. Why it isn't obvious to one and all at this point in time is beyond me. It would also serve a twin purpose in NOT showing their hand. Once investors see in black & white a decline in short interest, those informed investors will follow with buying as it signals IMHO the short's view that the bottom has been reached and trying for more is realistically asking for trouble as indicated in the first paragraph.

sentiment_stocks Member Level Monday, 06/27/16 08:15:22 PM
Re: Doc logic post# 65655
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I'm a bit confused now as maverick said that wouldn't have played out like that but exwannabe says it could.

Meaning, could the funds have loaned their shares out or not.

TC will probably have a better idea... maybe he can tell us tomorrow

sentiment_stocks Member Level Sunday, 06/26/16 08:18:27 PM
Re: Doc logic post# 65565
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Doc... this whole move on Friday made me...

"Think it over, think it under... think, think, think." - A.A. Milne, Winnie the Pooh

And flipper just added to my thinking with some of his thinks.

Finally, I wondered if perhaps the Russell funds had loaned out all their shares to the hedge funds to short (since the funds can't short - but can make money lending them). So when they had to kick NWBO out of their funds - which mean that those shares wouldn't be there for the hedges to short anymore, the Russell funds made arrangements with the same hedges that were borrowing the shares from them to now buy the shares from them... at the end of the day on Friday.

If this type of arrangement was how the transactions were handled, I'd think they'd have to have been made via dark pools set up by either the buyer or sellers... to keep the price from fluxuating.

Maybe they had an end of day deal to buy at whatever the share price closed at on Friday.

maverick_1 Sunday, 06/26/16 08:37:03 PM
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Finally, I wondered if perhaps the Russell funds had loaned out all their shares to the hedge funds to short (since the funds can't short - but can make money lending them). So when they had to kick NWBO out of their funds - which mean that those shares wouldn't be there for the hedges to short anymore, the Russell funds made arrangements with the same hedges that were borrowing the shares from them to now buy the shares from them... at the end of the day on Friday.


Unfortunately Sentiment your premise is incorrect:
Institutions buy stock for CASH!!! ie CANNOT BE LOANED OUT!! So ALL Institutions have no stock lending capacity or dept.

It can only be loaned out by Broker/Dealers from their Stock/Loan Dept when an individual has a MARGIN ACCOUNT: where it is NOT owned outright and the firm loans the individual anywhere between 50% to 66%. Once shs like NWBO falls below $2 or even $4 depending on the firm: ALL Sell side firms require MORE FUNDS to be put into the account so that it is 100% owned. The Stock Loan Dept of Sell Side firms is a big profit center to add to their charging an individual margin interest for the $loan portion AND the exorbitant rates they charge either an individual or an institution that wishes to SHORT the shs. I met the head of Pershing & Co a very large clearing firm and part of the venerable DLJ that I discussed this with.


AND do make sure you understand the difference between the two above:
Broker/Dealers are Sell Side firms like:Charles Schwab; Merrill Lynch, even Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs.
Institutions are Buy Side firms like ANY Mutual Fund even though they may be under say the Merrill Lynch umbrella,and the same goes for Fidelity Mgt in Boston which has a retail side to it(probably that combo is exceptionally RARE given their stature as well as being family owned!)

But if this is what happened, were the hedges able to keep the shares they bought from Russell funds?

Where did the shares actually go, because if they were borrowing them from the hedges, and then actually bought them, wouldn't they use them then to close out their position?

But if that were the case, who would they have to deliver them to?

TC Trader can probably help my think on this, but that's what came to my mind.

maverick_1 Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:20:42 PM
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My thoughts have been centered on the likelihood of it being OTHER buyers of REAL SIZE for the NWBO shs that were traded only on Thurs till NOW!:

IMHO it is the Short Hedge Funds that shrewdly upended part of LP's and other's hoping to trap them in their short position till A Big 2X4 Announcement.

The likelihood it is non Hedge Fund that did the buying is HIGHLY REMOTE IMHO.

My sense is what I've expressed early Saturday morning:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=123531419

Quote:
PERHAPS without any public acknowledgement there is (to me)a growing realization by the Manipulating HF's that NWBO will survive as there has been NO Regulatory Pronouncements for this LONG EXPANSE of TIME and clearly the Manipulators are aware of LP's tenacity, clear lack of opacity and her demonstrated resourcefulness. This has been my THEORY!


So in "One" fell swoop over two daily trading days plus Fri AH they did the unthinkable to most. Best to put yourself in their shoes which I have been in many situations! When one seriously does the DD for BOTH sides of the transaction and finds a SOLUTION.... it is indeed EMPOWERING, That has nothing obviously to do with Illegal Stock Price Manipulation. Everyone needs to look at each item DISCREETLY.

[color=red]Really, who else in this clearly disturbing BREXIT AFTERMATH environment would be set up to BUY this SIZE and take the risk without any clarity on the Screening Halt. So my thoughts the Shorts covered (not all of it tho! as there are over 12.8mln legally short + ?? Mln Naked Shs Short). So perhaps they may now have covered ~5+ mln???(PERHAPS THE BALANCE WAS USED FOR THE NAKED PORTION)and HOLD those shares for the upside ROI vs the pittance ROI of loaning it out.

I could be wrong but I go with my intuition and putting the millisec/abruptness of events together that is my conclusion for now.

Nothing else would seem plausible unless....[/color]

Special Note: Since I can think and operate like a Short which I've demonstrated to myself over a long expanse of time:
Also I happened to RE enter and expand my NWBO of under 70 cts so I've lucked out in putting those thoughts together in exiting early Summer 2015 and re entering.

[maverick_1]

SECOND CONFIRMATION in the SI sphere on yet another of my EARLY intuitions:

AND few contributors here... mostly a dime a dozen critics; attack dogs or obstructionist a la dying off the vine Republican party

Notice this is what I posted a month ago BEFORE the 7/5 $3.7 mln NWBO offering done by Chardan Capital:

maverick_1 Sunday, 06/26/16 10:47:48 PM Re: None
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Coursing thru the Short NWBO HF minds:

Utilize what all of us have identified in the differences of DNDN with that of NWBO. The shorts were actively involved in both. So they are acutely aware of ALL the issues both faced and what distinguishes each one. DNDN declared bankruptcy and it traded at 40-50 cts and got resurrected with the infamous Valeant.

Shorts in NWBO had to ask this question:
How and when will I cover to PROFIT?
From say $9-$10 avg short to the 60+ cts level is it worth the risk of NWBO's LP as a venture capitalist that is brilliant with a large network built up over an intense 15 or so years, LP has pulled many a rabbit out of the hat: even in exceptionally difficult economic times: 2009-2012!

HF profits could have vaporized with a 2X4 NWBO Announcement.

Why not take whatever profits we can thru the Russell event and BUY them to profit on the UPSIDE? to use as a counter of whatever shorts that may be uncoverable??? that would face losses.

This, I believe is what went on STRATEGICALLY because that is exactly what went thru my mind that made me get back in: Ludicrously and grossly undervalued due to purported illegal stock price manipulation.

Also: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=123543575

What I said 2 wks ago is still applicable:

1)Notice this took place even though Shorts knew NWBO needed financing 7/5!
and
2)Clearly contradicts AFraudstein said re that placement.
Doesn't square with what I've posted on Charden Capital!
3) Debunks what Sentiment and Flipper were thinking after Russell event: buyers could lend it out: Institutions don't use margin!

TWO CONSECUTIVE SHORT INTEREST reports SHOWING COVERING BY HF's taking advantage of weak knee longs squeamishness based on price action as well as inability to deal with short term pain for what appears to be upon us i the near term? For those still holding since last Summer you need a STRONG constitution:quite a costly learning experience (beyond mere science!)

Settlement Date Short Interest Avg Daily Share Volume Days To Cover
7/15/2016 10,927,826 817,888 13.361030
6/30/2016 11,582,182 1,168,961 9.908100
6/15/2016 13,339,462 798,595 16.703663
5/31/2016 12,845,050 630,958 20.358011
5/13/2016 12,759,440 838,054 15.225081
4/29/2016 12,097,571 410,148 29.495624