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Paul Wall

05/11/16 12:57 PM

#5482 RE: heidibrown #5481

Right. To me, a RS or FS wouldn't matter. There is no dilution.
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Zebraman

05/11/16 1:17 PM

#5483 RE: heidibrown #5481

Yes just like with US Airways the vested shares would become preferred stock but without the preferred buying price because all the shares would be controlled by the company outside of what you have, the company would then reverse split the stock until it could squeeze out as many investors as it could noting that they have to have a huge control in the stock to do this I believe they have been Shoring up their position and buying stock for over a year now this has been in the planning for quite some time, I believe that they hold a large amount of stock now, as far as reputation there would be no bad reputation because they did not force anybody to sell their shares and when they do a reverse split to the point where they can push out smaller shareholders what happens is the smaller shareholders are handed the current share price maybe $1 and that is all they get out so that the stock can shrink down once the stock has shrunk down and they are squeezed out then the forward split would happen could take a few weeks or even a few months but it will happen and the share structure will go back up to 90 million or most likely a lot more and then the company would sell shares as the stock price climbed people would be buying in and the company could sell off a block of shares that are now totally vested shares that can turn them a huge profit this is a very old tactic a little research you can read up about it it has been done many times and I'm pretty sure these guys know what they're doing with this stock they have been playing this thing by the numbers and everything points to this strategy, I do not think initially they planned to do the reverse split to push out shares I think they just planned on quietly buying shares at a very small price few thousand shares ten thousand fifty thousand shares at a time but somebody in their offices maybe a secretary or someone who knows and outside consultant found out about their merger plans and decided to jump in and buy a huge chunk of stock this caused a lot of attention that they did not want I feel now that they have managed to put in enough shares that is why we got the tweets without the tweets they were not ready once they made any acknowledgment of the merger no matter how insignificant and small it shows that they are ready for the merger to happen now as a CEO and a CEO of a company that has merged I have been involved in this myself and had very experienced Consultants guiding me through the same scenarios so I could pick what I wanted to do the point of this is not to get the shareholders money the point of this is to get them as much money as they can with as few hands out as possible. Klean wants it as cheap as they can get, and Mann wants to make a pretty penny. Most of the people on this board are only seeing this as a reverse merger they are forgetting the intellectual property of it remember Klean wants the intellectual property as well as the benefit of a reverse merger they did not have to open their books to the SEC and have a full audit if they do a reverse merger for many reasons this is an advantage for them but do they want to pay 90 million dollars for harmonic energy absolutely not unless that 90 million dollars is going to go right back into their pocket. Mann needs to get his, but at what price. The licensing of the technology rights for the closed-loop tire recycling process from the Japanese is a big want for Klean, to tell the truth my big hunch is that Mann actually acquired harmonic energy for exactly this purpose to merge it eventually with Klean Industries, or he was in cahoots with Klean the entire time for this deal but a pump-and-dump did happen to him right after he took control obviously he was not in it or he would have sold everything he had in the company this is why the shareholder who is most liable and responsible had to turn over 2 million shares back to harmonic energy unless they wanted to deal with the SEC.
And if you think about it the whole time Klean has announced its planning to open to the market was right about the same time, a little after Mann acquired harmonic energy. If you asked me this looks extremely planned. Remember they were extremely happy to allow the pump-and-dump to lower the price of the stock once the pump-and-dump was figured out people run from the stock and the price plummeted which was perfect for them to come in and buy up all these really cheap shares for a cheap buy in. I would bet the Insiders on Klean and Harmonic now control over 75% of the shares now, this is why they made that tweet. And they did that tweet at the end of the trading day on a Friday so I'm sure they were hoping to pump the stock up pretty good on Monday for any old money to finally get weary enough to kick out their shares, but for some reason I still cannot figure out why the stock did not jump into the high teens on Monday as I did not see the volume of shares moving I would have expected, but remember a vast majority of the shares are locked up right now by insiders guaranteed, I bet less then 10 million shares or out there to open trade. I could be off if my figures but I have a feeling I am pretty close in range.