I don't disagree. Both BK and RS will wipeout commons. RS allows Bates to rinse, wash, repeat to whatever degree he is capable, no matter how small. BK might allow for a bounce, but really tough with a monster float. Sales are the obvious answer, but a stretch IMO. Finding an angel investor is improbable simply because the risk doesn't outweigh the reward for smart people with money. However, a takeover isn't out of the question, much like ECI*. It's not a real happy story and they did RS and then subsequently give back 90% with about $12,000,000 in sales at the time, but they exist, righted the ship and have a chance of returning some of the loss. Between Indiana and the LOC, better debt, it's around 3.5 million plus interest and fees, payoff is a good chunk more. But, the big better debt is workable. The LOC seems to be content staying dormant and taking interest and Indiana seems content allowing the mayor's incompetent son and other extended family members to continue making a grossly overpaid salary. Filings not too far out, we shall see.