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navycmdr

01/16/16 11:06 AM

#326381 RE: mike_usa #326379

if the COURT simply orders STOP the SWIPE

we are @ $10 and most likely MUCH MORE

as the mkt sees the GOVT losing on its ILLEGAL ACTIONS

when the LEMMINGS come RUNNING BACK to the BUY Window

a lot of CASH on sidelines from last weeks mkt TANK
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Hvp123

01/16/16 11:40 AM

#326388 RE: mike_usa #326379

Bottom line is we will see $23-$47 period :) unless more damaging evidence is found which is very likely then range will be higher. Its multi year investment for Bill, Bruce n Perry. NWS being ruled illegal is the first step.
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Patswil

01/16/16 11:49 AM

#326391 RE: mike_usa #326379

$16Bill Rev/1.16 bill shares X 17 P/E= $234.00 @TheJusticeDept
Of course this doesn’t take into consideration any subsequent PENALTIES
$46/share….perhaps after a 5//1 forward split–warrants are invalid
the biggest variable is what the P/E should be

P/E is variable---floating target===could be a lot higher--like 58

p/e==58...thus with my previous estimate PPS of $234/$3(EPS)=58

Net income/outstanding shares * P/E multiple==PPS

thus 16/1.16*58===PPS of $799.00

PPS shd be $799.00 $16bill/1.16X P/E58==$799.00

$16Bill Rev/1.16 bill
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Patswil

01/16/16 5:23 PM

#326428 RE: mike_usa #326379

$16Bill Rev/1.16 bill shares X 17 P/E= $234.00 @TheJusticeDept
Of course this doesn’t take into consideration any subsequent PENALTIES
$46/share….perhaps after a 5//1 forward split–warrants are invalid
the biggest variable is what the P/E should be

P/E is variable---floating target===could be a lot higher--like 58

p/e==58...thus with my previous estimate PPS of $234/$3(EPS)=58

Net income/outstanding shares * P/E multiple==PPS

thus 16/1.16*58===PPS of $799.00

PPS shd be $799.00 $16bill/1.16X P/E58==$799.00

$16Bill Rev/1.16 bill
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cfljmljfl

01/16/16 10:27 PM

#326441 RE: mike_usa #326379

What is wrong with you people. If we are not made whole, we as business and as individuals are screwed because anything but whole sets a precedents in law for the government use that law as a lawful precedent to steal a individuals or business property and assets. It is a slippery slope to worse things. They wink not quit until they have it all.

Did you know Teamster union leaders made a deal with the government to go around ERISA to reduce retired pension monthly payout by 66% effective July 2016?

Did you know the government 2010 budget government stole 750 billion dollars from Social Security lprivate funds to fund Medicaid/ Obamacare? FDR promised Social Security would be in a lock box not to be used for other government purpose other then a retirement benefit for those contributing

Did you know the government 2016 budget government stole 150 billion dollars from Medicare private funds to fund Medicaid/ Obamacare?

We have an opportunity to stop rhis crap. Win this case and brought whole. Protect future by putting a barrier between us and gov corruption.

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atypicalperson

01/16/16 10:48 PM

#326443 RE: mike_usa #326379

You right, 99% of the people here are overly optimistic abouts things. Lets talk about this be $3 before talking about $30
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Donotunderstand

01/17/16 11:15 AM

#326471 RE: mike_usa #326379

I agree with Ackman that the warrants - as part of the original deal and potential equity acquired under the umbrella of HERA are legal

I still hope to have less dilution based on some future mediation or deal --- or a judge saying --- yes 20% but 20% of a F and F with all of the excess SWEEP paid back etc.

My approach to a middle ground has been stated

GOV gets 80% via warrants but in an agreement or judgment of mediation ------ the GOV must sell its 80% to the public and put all such proceeds back into F and F as capital surplus ((the GOV could say - correctly - such action is not throwing away profit but creating a stable F and F and private capacity to shield the GOV from un necessary future bail outs ))