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kennypooh

11/20/15 2:16 PM

#45678 RE: tykundegex #45670

Caution....the share price of this company is likely to go down if you mention hydrogen on this board.

Ecomike

11/20/15 8:16 PM

#45696 RE: tykundegex #45670

I have posted the links many times right here for years. I suggest you check google for the links and proof and share your findings with us here please.

The DOE is "pushing the switch from H2 to formic acid in FC's" ? Really?

Do us all a favour, won't you? Please send us some links to support:

1. the DOE is pushing for formic acid
2. the DOE believe H2 is "problematic" for FCs
3. H2 as a fuel is not economical



But here is a 30 second search jump start

https://www.google.com/search?q=US+DOE+formic+acid+fuel+cell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Formic Acid Fuel Cells: New Possibilities For Portable Power
www.electrochem.org/dl/ma/206/pdfs/0510.pdf
direct formic acid fuel cells
show exceptional properties for ... formic acid fuel cell (DFAFC) to that of a PEM fuel cell
...
support from the US Department of Energy
.

Encyclopedia of Electrochemical Power Sources
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0444527451
Chris K. Dyer, ?Patrick T. Moseley, ?Zempachi Ogumi - 2013 - ?Technology & Engineering
Additionally, formic acid has a low odor threshold drawing the fuel cell user's ... in Figure 10 and contrasted to the US Department of Energy (DOE) target cost for ...
Liquid fuel cells

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...

National Center for Biotechnology Information
by GL Soloveichik - ?2014 - ?Cited by 6 - ?Related articles
Aug 29, 2014 - Hydrazine, for example, was mixed with formic acid and methanol for ... Theoretical energy density and fuel cell efficiency for liquid fuels for fuel cells. ...... Frontier Research Center funded by the U.S. Department of Energy, ...

Formic acid fuel cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formic_acid_fuel_cell
Wikipedia
Direct-formic acid fuel cells where the fuel, formic acid, is not reformed, but fed directly to ...

Hydrogen Fuel from Formic Acid | MIT Technology Review
www.technologyreview.com/.../hydrogen-fuel-...
MIT Technology Review
May 15, 2008 - A simple new process generates hydrogen for fuel cells. ...

[PDF]Final DOE Report Project Title: Powering Cell ... - OSTI
www.osti.gov/scitech/servlets/purl/899684
by R Zhang - ?2007
Project Team: Lisa Barnett (DOE HQ Program Manager). Deborah .... side of the formic acid fuel cell demonstrated a dramatic improvement in the performance.

30th Fuel Cell Seminar - Issue 1 - Page v - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1566775493
M. C. Williams - 2007 - ?Fuel cells
v ECS Transactions, Volume 5, Issue 1 30th Fuel Cell Seminar Table of Contents ... iii Chapter 1 PEM FUEL CELLS Section 1 Programs The U.S. DOE Fuel Cell ... G. Schiller Self-assembled PEMs for Direct Formic Acid Fuel Cells 61 H. Tang, ...
Direct Alcohol Fuel Cells: Materials, Performance, ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=9400777086
Horacio R. Corti, ?Ernesto R. Gonzalez - 2013 - ?Science
Table 9.1 U. S. DOE 2013 targets for performance, cost and durability of DMFC ... powered by a fuel cell (using methanol, formic acid or butane) and two refill ...

U.S. Fuel Cell Council Leads Efforts for Transportation and ...
www.hydrogenandfuelcellsafety.info/2007/oct/usfcc.asp
This was somewhat remarkable, actually, since formic acid and butane fuel cells ... now works in the hydrogen storage program at the US Department of Energy.

Fundamentals of Renewable Energy Processes
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0123972191
Aldo Vieira Da Rosa - 2012 - ?Science
... of the 2000 US DOE Hydrogen Program Review, NREL/CP-570-28890, p. ... Ralph, T. R., and M. P. Hogarth, Catalyst for low temperature fuel cells, Part III: Challenges ... Catalysts for direct formic acid fuel cells, J. Power Sources 115 (2), pp.

Greener

11/23/15 4:58 PM

#45808 RE: tykundegex #45670

No one has money to burn on garbage like the military…… soon to be parked in AREA 51…. Chevy H2 Hybred

" Why didn't we get those into service captain… too expensive?"
-"Money is no object…. nobody wanted to drive an H-Bomb into Iraq" "Too much like a suicide mission"