You can not simply pay back a convertible at its face value, convertible by definition comes with a call option I.e. Buying shares at a stated price. You can not delete that by paying back that loan. You can say I will pay it back and then you will see that the lender converts them into shares because they are all significantly in the money. Therefore, their target should be to stop bleeding i.e. be in a position to pay the interest on their debt and keep the share count constant from that point on. Again, even on a fully diluted basis, they cheap if they will make 45-50mn this year and can grow that amount in the next fiscal years. If people have seen that 50mn going up 75 next year, 100 the year after, we would have attracted much more interest. We are not there yet.