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troubleshooter

08/23/15 12:16 PM

#1585 RE: ascanius #1584

A lot of people "use" religion for their own personal gain. We hear about it a lot. And I agree - those that do that think they can manipulate or fool others to trust them without having to prove it first. Religious beliefs should be a personal and private matter. I become very guarded when someone ties religion into their business. Why? Because I see it as a sales pitch to imply honestly and trustworthiness because they are trying to hide incompetence in some other area. I see it as hiding behind a mask. Honestly and trustworthiness is proven through actions and actions alone.

judge2236

08/23/15 3:55 PM

#1586 RE: ascanius #1584

Let me get this straight Ascanius. You and LTE are telling me that Mr. Koch, Mr. DeLiege, and Mr. Sturm can create a pump and dump company based upon a fairy tale patent, create 6 million shares for each at just $5000,00 each, sign all these amazing deals with companies with no money, dump unlimited free shares on the open market like Mr. Koch, sign all kinds of 6 month term death spiral financing agreements, can gift 200,000 shares to a family member as Mr. Sturm has done, can create an amazing commercial scale demo factory and not share even its location, and do all kinds of things at their whim without anyone knowing it, and when the company vanishes one morning, they have plausible deniability because of all these dire financial reports that totally go against their disclaimer based fairly tale press releases, and then I find out this morning, as Christers, they pull out their Get Out Jail Free cards, get forgiveness for the entire scheme and then go live the dream???? Excuse me, I've got to go and process all this....