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[Ubertino]

Bavarian brewery

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Who, what, where and when?

What are their brands?

Sold here??

[Ecomike]

Regarding "The MVTG pilot plant for an ERC is not to prove it works. That has already been done. It is a required chemical engineering design step needed to produce the final scale up design data ( see Wiki for details on chemical engineering reactor dimensionless numbers and what Pilot plants are really for) needed before the full scale plant can be built. LaFarge and Alstom and the Bavarian brewery would not be investing time and money in a pilot plant if they were not already sold. "

Here are some educational links about my world of chemical engineering and what pilot plant is really used for, as details on the oh so important dimensionless numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_plant

A pilot plant is a small industrial system which is operated to generate information about the behavior of the system for use in design of larger facilities. Pilot plant is a relative term in the sense that plants are typically smaller than full-scale production plants, but are built in a range of sizes. Some pilot plants are built in laboratories using stock lab equipment, while others are constructed of fabricated metal on dedicated concrete slabs and cost millions of dollars. They can also be used to train personnel for a full-scale plant.

Pilot plants are used to reduce the risk associated with construction of large process plants. They do this in several ways:

Computer simulations and semi-empirical methods are used to determine the limitations of the pilot scale system. These mathematical models are then tested in a physical pilot-scale plant. Various modeling methods are used for scale-up. These methods include:
Chemical similitude studies
Mathematical modeling
Aspen/Hysys modeling
Finite Elemental Analysis (FEA)
Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD)
They are substantially less expensive to build than full-scale plants.

The MVTG Pilot plants will be used to optimize the design of the full scale MVTG-ERC plant. The pilot plant is not needed to prove that the MVTG-ERC process works, we know it works based on the smaller pilot plants MVTG built, and we know that it is profitably efficient enough to build and operate at a commercial size at a profit!!! It will be used to optimize and fine tune the full scale plant design before it is built!!