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05/27/15 5:48 PM

#37993 RE: uksausage #37982

Isn't that really the point of being licensed and patented. It's all about the components that a do-it-yourselfer can't make.

Those are the Woopte dooo attitude should clean up their glasses so they can see clearly. This ship Is about to sail away.

Ecomike

05/27/15 7:26 PM

#38004 RE: uksausage #37982

I actually like and have considered that idea, for MVTG and for other products I have on my lab shelf. Only concern is control of the IP and liabiltiy risks at this stage. If all else failed it is the way to go imho, but I am pretty sure that Larry has huge deep pockets trying to cut deals with MVTG already. Only question is who, when and what the deals will be.

Ecomike

05/28/15 12:33 PM

#38042 RE: uksausage #37982

Rethinking my earlier comment, as that may actually be an excellent idea!!!! I will pass it on to Larry along with why I like it.

They would need to set up fabrication of small initial batch quantities (not a problem from what I heard) but it could be a great way to SPARK-interest :-) in the MVTG MRFC fuel cells and to get multiple field trials under way right away on many rigs at a low cost. The idea has pluses and minuses. Minus is less control of data collection and set up, and time consuming public relations with a many inexperienced end users that can eat up valuable PhD engineer time. Better to have knowledgeable experienced users, but hard to do that on a retail site like that one. On the other hand it can produce free R&D field trail results. My old boss (1976..) who had dozens of paint pump patents over 30 years, used house paint contractors that rented paint rigs from his company to run field trials on his modified (patent) paint rigs. He used the contractors that were the most notorious for screwing up rigs and mishandling them.

It worked very well for him. He sold or licensed his patents over that 30 years to Graco, Binks, Devilbus, Speedflow, Wagneer Spray Tech and others over the years. I learned patent law and pump hydraulic mechanics from him when I was barely out of high school....He had an aeronautical engineering degree from Princeton University. He spend most of his days in dirty grungy overalls in the repair shop smoking a pipe and working on filthy paint rigs. Not the typical engineer at all (A lot like Me :-) ). He looked like the Janitor, LOL, but was a millionaire from his prior stint running the EGD Speedflow firm as the president until Dow Chemical bought the company for millions way back when.....

I did something similar in 2000 by posting up an application form online on my website for end users to apply to be the early adopters for field trials!!! So the buyer if you will, had to pass an application process first to get one. Ford Motor Company was the first applicant I approved :-) It was for field trials of a unit I developed under a US DOE grant....

I love the DIY crowd idea in general!!!! Just needs to be carefully managed!!!!