It has been proven over and over. People don't need me saying it to see its fact. See thats the difference all my stuff can be done looking at the finacials andbreaking down the idot CEOS PR numbers. Its called numbers. See some one just go to the financials checks the amount of the lien. Knowing its over $50,000 they know then the terms are 10 years. SO then the rest is easy. Of course LOL LOL some lol want to say you can't count the interest.lol lol