Actually, gtc, there is proof of both. The SEC has been exercising subpoena powers, which they cannot do unless there is an open civil investigation, and Urban's taking the fifth in a civil proceeding is only allowable if he has reasonable grounds to think that criminal charges are forthcoming.
He did, after all retain a criminal defense attorney. And that was before he received the notification that he was the target of a Clark County Grand Jury investigation. Urban and the Boyz received their Wells notices long ago, but of course chose not to report them.
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