Fair enough, but I wont be any more inclined to exclude "licensing fees" (as you apparently do?) from sales then than I am now.
I am not making any argument that Wave is or is not selling anything in Q3, on that I have nothing to defend or dispute 'when the numbers come out'.
I am stating that the argument that they have had "no sales" is demonstrably false and nothing reported for Q3 will have any opportunity to amend that truth.