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Replies to #9864 on Rambus (RMBS)

Nicdagreek

04/14/06 3:46 PM

#9866 RE: mtsugawa #9864

BTW, Nic, were you in attendance? If so, any hints on your identity?

I did not get to go to closing unfortunately... but I did see Karp and Steinberg the week before... and if you were the tall guy in the elevator lobby on the 4th floor (kinda Tim Robbins look alike?) I was standing right in front of you with a blue suit on. I think you invited one other guy to go to lunch (don't know him...)

So you came THAT close - maybe the security guards will let you look at the old videos

Da Greek

calbiker

04/14/06 8:39 PM

#9873 RE: mtsugawa #9864

Re: he was simply creating an analogy of how ludicrous it was for Murphy to say that the output data driver was coupled to the external clock.

I don't find it ludicrous at all. Fact is, the output data driver is coupled to the external clock. Hynix databook clearly shows this connection. Furniss wants to make it sound absurd by having to trudge through 5 pages of schematics to get through this signal path. That's nothing. I bet there's well over a 100 pages of schematics. In the old days a schematic showed lots of information/functions. These days schematics are broken down into much smaller sections, each having its own page.

Furness is making a big deal of the 5 pages. Stone should have asked how many pages of schematics are necessary to represent DDR.

If it is coupled to the clock, it is via a very complex set of circuitry, in my (OONSITA) opinion.

I see you bought into Hynix argument. I saw the 5 pages when Murphy went through the signal a couple weeks ago. I didn't see much complexity. And the argument of complexity shouldn't be an issue. If the data gets output as a result of a clock wiggle, then they are coupled. This is the basis of synchronized memory. Without that coupling, there's no synchronization. We're talking about the 'S' in SDRAM!

smd1234

04/14/06 11:18 PM

#9876 RE: mtsugawa #9864

Cal, Mark, others - is the issue w/ the word "coupled?"

Isn't the driver "linked" or "coordinated" w/ the clock?

smd

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output data driver was coupled to the external clock.

lolo

04/15/06 3:08 AM

#9877 RE: mtsugawa #9864

DOn't forget this guy,, except with more hair;
http://www.tvheaven.ca/murdered_gallery_pic5.jpg

from the 'are you being served?' british series...
LOLo

BTW, some basher on hayoo said that cal and lolo would
back his version of the close. Wow, i'm listed as a credible pessimist (pragmatist?), in the same breath as da biker...